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re: Need help finding video of Black ex-cop breaking down Ahmaud Arbery case
Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:56 am to yesyesyall
Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:56 am to yesyesyall
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On Friday, an attorney for the owner of the house under construction released a short video taken by a security camera on Dec. 17. It shows a black man in a T-shirt and shorts leaving the site with his back to the camera. He walks a few steps toward the road, then starts running at a jogger's pace.
"It now appears that this young man may have been coming onto the property for water," J. Elizabeth Graddy, the attorney for homeowner Larry English, said in a statement. "There is a water source at the dock behind the house as well as a source near the front of the structure."
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 10:58 am to More&Les
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This aint White Brother Whore-hey or hands up don't defend yourself, this is a real murder and a real cover up and this MAGA MF aint here for it.
dude herePosted on 5/15/20 at 11:00 am to More&Les
Anybody ask themselves why this hardened career criminal would "break in" to an open construction site several times over the course of months without ever stealing a single thing or even touching anything?
Oh, it was his water stop....
Damn, but our heros executed the MF, for getting a sip of water!
Oh, it was his water stop....
Damn, but our heros executed the MF, for getting a sip of water!
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:03 am to More&Les
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"break in"
It has doors and windows
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:05 am to Errerrerrwere
&More&Les
Neighborhood also had a FB group and neighbor app. This was discussed on both for weeks.
They had every right to stop him.
You also don’t have to steal anything for it to be a burglary. You are spewing bullshite as fact that you read off of Twitter.
Then, come on this board and vomit it all the while trying to pretend your conservatism.
Neighborhood also had a FB group and neighbor app. This was discussed on both for weeks.
They had every right to stop him.
You also don’t have to steal anything for it to be a burglary. You are spewing bullshite as fact that you read off of Twitter.
Then, come on this board and vomit it all the while trying to pretend your conservatism.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:06 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
"break in"
It has doors and windows
None of the doors had hardware, as in it was not lockable, its an open construction site.
According to the video an unknown couple did the same thing Arbery did a couple days before, no 911 calls, no posse, no executions, wtf?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:08 am to More&Les
So, you believe you need to break in to a property that has locked doors and actually take something for it to be a burglary?
Here’s a word you need to learn:
Intent
Here’s a word you need to learn:
Intent
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:09 am to Errerrerrwere
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Neighborhood also had a FB group and neighbor app. This was discussed on both for weeks.
So does my neighborhood, they assumed the black kid dating my neighbors daughter was casing my culdesac (i.e. my house) because he pulled up near my driveway a few times late at night.
Do I have the right to chase him down and point a shotgun at him?
You continue to prove you don't know wtf you are taking about so really just frick off, ok.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:11 am to Errerrerrwere
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Then, come on this board and vomit it all the while trying to pretend your conservatism.
And ive been on this board for years dumbass, i don't pretend to be anything. Again, you're fricking clueless
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:12 am to More&Les
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And ive been on this board for years dumbass, i don't pretend to be anything. Again, you're fricking clueless
Race Pimp
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:19 am to Errerrerrwere
Georgia doesn't have any law that specifies "breaking and entering".....both the misdemeanor trespass statute and the burglary statute specify only "entering". The difference between misdemeanor trespassing and felony burglary is "with the intent to commit a felony or theft therein" for the latter.
Thus there must be provable evidence of intent to commit a felony or theft within the structure. Hunch or assumption doesn't get the job done on that requirement. Otherwise, it's misdemeanor trespass.
Thus there must be provable evidence of intent to commit a felony or theft within the structure. Hunch or assumption doesn't get the job done on that requirement. Otherwise, it's misdemeanor trespass.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:23 am to davyjones
Maybe.
But they aren’t getting aggravated assault.
Neither are they getting murder 1 on these guys.
They overcharged them. And in doing that are guaranteeing these men walk after all of this.
But they aren’t getting aggravated assault.
Neither are they getting murder 1 on these guys.
They overcharged them. And in doing that are guaranteeing these men walk after all of this.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:26 am to SuperFanDan
Just watch this guy's video and it's pretty good breaking down the events, and pointing out the facts. I've done a complete 180 on my position, based on the all the info. The initial video is pretty bad. However, if I was on a jury and this guy gave the closing argument, I'd probably have to go with Not Guilty based on the way the law is written.
However, if this were presented in a Civil Trial, I'd probably side with the family. You just can't block the road and gun somebody down when there are other alternatives, like keeping your distance and waiting for the police.
However, if this were presented in a Civil Trial, I'd probably side with the family. You just can't block the road and gun somebody down when there are other alternatives, like keeping your distance and waiting for the police.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:34 am to Errerrerrwere
A jury would have the option of coming back with a lesser and included, responsive verdict though.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:36 am to jrodLSUke
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Just watch this guy's video and it's pretty good breaking down the events, and pointing out the facts. I've done a complete 180 on my position, based on the all the info. The initial video is pretty bad. However, if I was on a jury and this guy gave the closing argument, I'd probably have to go with Not Guilty based on the way the law is written.
However, if this were presented in a Civil Trial, I'd probably side with the family. You just can't block the road and gun somebody down when there are other alternatives, like keeping your distance and waiting for the police.
If you are referring to SMs video, I watched it, and I normally agree with him wholeheartedly on most things.
IMO he got quite a few things wrong, especially the law governing citizens arrest, and trusting Greg's decades of LEO experience isn't valid in the least, in fact, it makes it far worse.
He has no excuse not to know the statute and every obligation to comply. Moreover, it is being reported that he was officially stripped of his policing powers twice and ultimately signed an agreement in 2019 to NOT engage in any law enforcement activities, including making arrests.
He not only didn't have justification for detaining Arbery he was legally obligated not to.
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This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:43 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Errerrerrwere
Are you defending McMichael pointing the shotgun at Aubery
as he ran before he veered left then proceeded to move across the front of the truck with shotgun in hand to cut Aubery off?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:10 pm to More&Les
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Do I have the right to chase him down and point a shotgun at him?
is there any evidence that the shotgun was pointed at arbery at any point before his own hands were on it as he ran into mcmichaels?
this guy dating your friend's daughter, did he ever do that to you, run up to you, punch you in the head a few times? that'd be pretty hard behavior to explain, especially if you were holding a shotgun at the time, no?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:14 pm to davyjones
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Thus there must be provable evidence of intent to commit a felony or theft within the structure. Hunch or assumption doesn't get the job done on that requirement. Otherwise, it's misdemeanor trespass.
agreed, but we're talking about what is required to convict. if you had to have proven intent prior to apprehension, hardly anyone would ever be detained by police. or by citizens for that matter. i think the relevant term is "reasonable suspicion."
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:19 pm to More&Les
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IMO he got quite a few things wrong, especially the law governing citizens arrest, and trusting Greg's decades of LEO experience isn't valid in the least, in fact, it makes it far worse.
He has no excuse not to know the statute and every obligation to comply?
where exactly are you saying that it ceases to be a legal citizen's arrest? no one was acting in the official capacity of a LEO, they were making a citizen's arrest, right? it was legal for them to pursue him and attempt to detain him until cops arrived, right? it was legal for them to be armed while doing so, right? maybe the moment that mcmichael steps out of the vehicle carrying the shotgun can be construed as some act of aggression, i don't know.
i'm not asking about what you feel is right, i'm talking about the law this situation is up against.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:19 pm to yesyesyall
i feel like chasing someone down in a truck with a shotgun and a pistol is pretty hard behavior to explain
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