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re: Navy officer applies to become the first ever woman to join the elite SEALs
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:11 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:11 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Thats where you're wrong. Men do belong because this country NEEDS men to fight its wars. It doesn't NEED women.
Not all men belong, and this country doesn't NEED all men to fight its wars.
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:12 pm to Argonaut
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and this country doesn't NEED all men to fight its wars.
yea we need robots
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:12 pm to ShortyRob
quote:It is though. In fact it's the most insurmountable problem posed by women in the military because its literally going against human nature. It's certainly not money or resources stopping us. The US military has both in spades and has shown its willingness to spend both on frivolous shite quite readily.
It's my main point because I don't consider things like cohesion, etc etc to be insurmountable problems.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:12 pm to ShortyRob
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Argonaut now acknowledges that the only way a woman should ever be selected is if she is among the top selects? She should not be selected if there is a man who outperforms her among the candidates?
You keep saying this. It isn't something that just happened. This has been my position since I jumped into this discussion.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:13 pm to ShortyRob
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Let me see if I can summarize my understanding of a point. Argonaut now acknowledges that the only way a woman should ever be selected is if she is among the top selects? She should not be selected if there is a man who outperforms her among the candidates that she would be selected in front of? If the above is true, this thread has been 20 something pages for nothing because. 1. No woman has ever outperformed the best non-selected male applicants. 2. No woman ever will outperform the best non-selected male applicants.
That's my take...
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:13 pm to Argonaut
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How many Silver Stars do you have? Have a CAB?
A CAB? Oh lord. I know you are clueless on the military but CAB's are not rare and they're not particularly difficult to get. Mortar round hit in the general vicinity? Here's your CAB.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:14 pm to Argonaut
quote:It needs men, women are a luxury that we can afford because we have fricktons of money and aren't really threatened by any real enemies to we can create this illusion that women are equal to men.
this country doesn't NEED all men to fight its wars.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:I'm not dismissing your argument out of hand.
It is though.
I'm simply observing that it's honestly, almost impossible to assess.
Much of what seems to be a cohesion issue actually comes back to the point I'm making.
I mean, I think if we're being honest here..........if, somehow, the most physically gifted person on a Seal team was a woman.........they'd probably figure out how to deal with the other shite.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:15 pm to northshorebamaman
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A CAB? Oh lord. I know you are clueless on the military but CAB's are not rare and they're not particularly difficult to get. Mortar round hit in the general vicinity? Here's your CAB.
Yet the Air Force comm dude running his mouth about what it's like to be in combat doesn't seem to have one.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:15 pm to Argonaut
quote:It's called repeating for clarity.
You keep saying this. It isn't something that just happened
I do it all the time in professional environments. You restate your understanding of someone else's position so that they can say, "yes, your understanding is correct".
It prevents gray.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:15 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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It needs men
Not all of them.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:16 pm to Argonaut
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Yet the Air Force comm dude running his mouth about what it's like to be in combat doesn't seem to have one.
Your not even in the military......
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:16 pm to Argonaut
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Not all of them.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:16 pm to ShortyRob
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It's called repeating for clarity.
I do it all the time in professional environments. You restate your understanding of someone else's position so that they can say, "yes, your understanding is correct".
It prevents gray.
Come on. You repeatedly stated that I was "finally coming around," did you not?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:17 pm to Argonaut
quote:Then why even argue?
You keep saying this. It isn't something that just happened. This has been my position since I jumped into this discussion.
I mean. No woman has ever outperformed the first non-selected male.
No woman ever will outperform the first non-selected male.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:17 pm to Argonaut
You really suck at succinctly communicating your position with clarity.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:18 pm to northshorebamaman
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A CAB?
I have a story about a CAB given out to an entire unit that would make you cry laughing.
But, alas. That's another subject.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:18 pm to ShortyRob
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The Argonaut approach.
Just declare shite false with no rebuttal
I'm becoming convinced that Argo is Ballcaster.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:18 pm to ShortyRob
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Then why even argue?
Because the points being made aren't limited to "don't let them in if they can't succeed."
Posted on 7/24/17 at 1:19 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Eh, I honestly think this whole issue is more detrimental to the conventional forces than it is the SOF forces anyway. Let them be SEALs if they want to, just don't let them in the infantry.
I mean, I think if we're being honest here..........if, somehow, the most physically gifted person on a Seal team was a woman.........they'd probably figure out how to deal with the other shite.
This post was edited on 7/24/17 at 1:20 pm
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