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Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:41 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Did you make an argument yet
Many.
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call people names
Why is this now a concern of yours? I've been called names since I dared to have an opposing opinion. No big deal.
Don't be so sensitive.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:44 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Is this chick a cubbies alter?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:44 am to Argonaut
Have I called you a name? No, I haven't. You'd remember if I called you a name because I'm fricking great at it. I'm just waiting for you to make a real argument that doesn't sound like an emotional plea from a woman.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:44 am to Argonaut
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Why is this now a concern of yours? I've been called names since I dared to have an opposing opinion. No big deal.
Name calling aside, do you believe that if standards have to be lowered, the people they are being lowered for should not be eligible for those positions?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:45 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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do you believe that if standards have to be lowered
Why should they be lowered?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:47 am to Janky
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Why should they be lowered?
Because if the goal becomes "get women into SEALS" rather than "find qualified SEALS" the standards will have to be lowered, because women are just not physically capable of doing the things now required to earn that trident.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:47 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Have I called you a name? No, I haven't.
Have I called you a name?
The Air Force comm dude is the only one I remember giving any shite to, which was in response to his bullshite.
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I'm just waiting for you to make a real argument that doesn't sound like an emotional plea from a woman.
Well, read through the thread. I've made many.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:48 am to Argonaut
I said it earlier I was a medic.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:48 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Name calling aside, do you believe that if standards have to be lowered, the people they are being lowered for should not be eligible for those positions?
Yes. I've stated repeatedly and often that standards should not be lowered for anyone.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:48 am to Argonaut
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I've made many.
No you haven't
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:49 am to Argonaut
There already are different standards.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:51 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Yup just for regular pt test
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:54 am to Argonaut
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Yes. I've stated repeatedly and often that standards should not be lowered for anyone.
Then , is it simply that you don't believe those of us who have been through special forces training when we tell you that most men can't qualify and it's going to be damn rare indeed to find women who can. I would say probably impossible to find a woman who can get through BUDS.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:56 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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There already are different standards.
And that's a different problem.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:56 am to Argonaut
Ok but you haven't given your independent opinion on why women should be allowed to be in these roles.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 11:59 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Then , is it simply that you don't believe those of us who have been through special forces training when we tell you that most men can't qualify and it's going to be damn rare indeed to find women who can.
It isn't about what I believe. I've said that many times as well.
There are no longer jobs that are inherently closed to someone based on their sex. That's just the way it is. Personally, I'm OK with that. If a woman is the best for a position, let her fill it. If she's not, don't. Not a lot of in-between on that one for me.
Professionally, I want to see the right arguments being made on the right points. "Women are weak" is a stupid argument and women shouldn't be allowed in is an irrelevant point.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:01 pm to lsucoonass
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Ok but you haven't given your independent opinion on why women should be allowed to be in these roles.
Sure I have. I want the standards to be the standards, regardless of sex.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:02 pm to Argonaut
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There are no longer jobs that are inherently closed to someone based on their sex. That's just the way it is. Personally, I'm OK with that. If a woman is the best for a position, let her fill it. If she's not, don't. Not a lot of in-between on that one for me.
But they are not the best people for the job
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Professionally, I want to see the right arguments being made on the right points. "Women are weak" is a stupid argument and women shouldn't be allowed in is an irrelevant point.
Research has already proved they do not perform to the level of their male counterparts.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 12:04 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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But they are not the best people for the job
I say we let the cadre figure that out.
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Research has already proved they do not perform to the level of their male counterparts.
Is this where we talk about that Marine Corps study again?
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