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re: Navy officer applies to become the first ever woman to join the elite SEALs

Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by Argonaut
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:15 pm to
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all the arguments and facts that I've presenseted over the past two years on this board on this subject dodo mean something


If the arguments you've made in this thread are indicative of the rest of your arguments, I'll remain skeptical.

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You can't give a single argument


I don't need to. That's already been done for me. I can just sit back and watch it happen.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:17 pm to
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affirmative action


You guys keep bringing this up like it's an important point to make. It isn't.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:17 pm to
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I don't need to. That's already been done for me.
Can you link those arguments?

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I can just sit back and watch it happen.
Thats right, you can sit back and watch as our military becomes less efficient and more expensive and giggle like a little girl because your side "won" because you don't have any skin in the game.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69723 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:19 pm to
Ok
Why would you want females in combat arms units better yet an operator role?

You haven't given a legitimate reason

Women were not designed to handle the physical and mental stressors of combat. That simple. It's evolution
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:21 pm to
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Why would you want females in combat arms units better yet an operator role?
He doesn't actually care one way or the other about women in combat arms. All he cares about is that it ruffles the feathers of people who are actually affected by this and who do care because he doesn't like them. He thinks it's purely politics and treats it like a football game.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:22 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:22 pm to
exactly.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:23 pm to
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Can you link those arguments?


Sure.

LINK
LINK

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Thats right, you can sit back and watch as our military becomes less efficient and more expensive and giggle like a little girl because your side "won" because you don't have any skin in the game.


I've been laughing at your type for years. Every change made in our military is going to be the one that shuts it all down.

And we continue on...
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:24 pm to
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Ok
Why would you want females in combat arms units better yet an operator role?

You haven't given s legitimate reasons

Women were not designed to handle the physical and mental stressors of combat. That simple. It's evolution




First, tell me about all your recent experience with combat.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:26 pm to
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ruffles the feathers


I'd prefer they didn't get rustled up over this, but I'm not concerned if they do.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126644 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:26 pm to
Women in deployment environment frick up the dynamic even for POGs.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:27 pm to
Those aren't arguments that tell me why it will make the military better.
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I've been laughing at your type for years. Every change made in our military is going to be the one that shuts it all down.

And we continue on...
Just because the military exists doesn't mean it's better than it was. And if it is better it's certainly not because of the presence of women.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69723 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:28 pm to
I don't have to bc you never mentioned yours

Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69723 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:29 pm to
It's a waste of an investment and resources
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:29 pm to
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tell me about all your recent experience with combat.
Why don't you tell us about yours
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:31 pm to
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Those aren't arguments that tell me why it will make the military better.


I don't need to explain it to you.

You're free to not like it. Take it up with Mattis.

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Just because the military exists doesn't mean it's better than it was.


Nothing you've said means it isn't better than it was.

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And if it is better it's certainly not because of the presence of women.


More opinions.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:33 pm to
Afghanistan in 2014 is my most recent.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:33 pm to
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Take it up with Mattis


He's not a fan. Can't reverse it due to optics though

His goal is the best military money can buy, not the PC agenda


LINK
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"The idea of putting women in there is not setting them up for success," he said. "It would only be someone who never crossed the line of departure into close quarters fighting that would ever even promote such an idea."

He [Mattis] stressed that his concerns were not about individual women's ability to meet physical requirements.

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"We have to be very careful that we do not undercut the military battlefield effectiveness with shortsighted social programs," he said.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 7:42 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162989 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:34 pm to
you linked Former Def Sec Ash Carter. which is the epitomy of injecting a social experiment into the military. I didn't click on your second link, is it Obama's idealogues ordering special bathrooms for trannies in the military? because that is a hot mess as well. hopefully it will all be undone by Mattis.
Posted by Argonaut
Member since Nov 2015
2059 posts
Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:34 pm to
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It's a waste of an investment and resources


That has never stopped us before. Why now?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/23/17 at 7:34 pm to
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Afghanistan in 2014 is my most recent.
That doesn't tell me anything
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