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re: National Security threat to reveal who’s on Epstien list.

Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:33 pm to
Our foreign policy NOW is to treat how we are being treated and promote peace.

Not sure how your outlook (or the "Israel exists because of us" guy's outlook) promote peace.

And if you can't understand why Israel is a strategic military and political resource (possibly our most important along with South Korea) then I don't think you can be helped.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
15195 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:34 pm to
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They do. Is a potential World War pitting us against Israel, Britain, and other countries currently our "allies" your definition of "justice"?


I don't know how to answer that. Really, if bringing evil to justice turns our allies into our enemies... were they ever really allies or just partners in crime?

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Also, that question you asked was an emotional one. Try to think with logic and not your feelings.


Okay. Logic.

The people that set this up are evil and untrustworthy. The people that participated are the same. The people covering it up are complicit in the whole mess.

Logically speaking, letting this all go is immoral and keeps us as bedfellows for some truly unjust, exploitative bullshite.

Emotionally, I'd watch the world burn if this happened to anyone I loved.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:37 pm to
SClib:

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The Israeli government most likely authorized a sexual predator to come to this country, ingratiate himself to it and then engage in the sexual exploitation of young girls in order to bribe and blackmail our own politicians. These are the actions of an enemy, not a friend.


Agreed, but sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.

Also, it wasn't long ago that Obama and his administration (and again in Biden's administration) were boots on the ground in Israel literally handing out pamphlets to undercut the leading candidate for their nation's leadership. Is that the action of a friend?

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JohnnyKilroy



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Deep state stooge


Read my post history you lazy frick.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92973 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Young women and girls. Trafficked. Exploited. Do they not deserve justice?



Worth repeating again.

Why are a lot of people convinced PedoStein was Mossad?
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7349 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:39 pm to
Ok, maybe don't start with John Roberts, but at least release the Jimmy Kimmels.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40367 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:39 pm to
I’m reading your post history in this thread in which your argument is that we can’t release the Epstein files because it will compromise the deep state.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:41 pm to
Somethings up with these AGs with Florida pedigree. Look at the current Florida AG grandstanding about the Tate bros. Pam is a well known grandstander since she joined forces with Benjamin Crump of Travon Martin fame. These Florida AGs love to shoot first and aim later.

I mean, STFU and get to work.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Emotionally, I'd watch the world burn if this happened to anyone I loved.


First and foremost, I agree with this sentiment.

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The people that set this up are evil and untrustworthy


Yup.

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The people that participated are the same.


Yup.

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The people covering it up are complicit in the whole mess.



Yup, but you are accusing Bondi, et al., of "covering it up". They have more to consider than just how bad each of us want to know who was really involved. Cover up? Technically, sure. It is also protecting valuable global reach and resources.

When you're dealing with evil people, you have to play the game in a way that is advantageous to your cause.

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Logically speaking, letting this all go is immoral and keeps us as bedfellows for some truly unjust, exploitative bullshite.


"Immoral" is an emotional construct in this context. Agreed on the rest of this quote, though. As I pointed out above, we have to interact with nefarious folks. Always has been that way, always will be. Fact of life.

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Emotionally, I'd watch the world burn if this happened to anyone I loved.


Just to reiterate, I agree with this 100%. On a personal level, at least.

Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
15195 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Why are a lot of people convinced PedoStein was Mossad?


I don't know what he was, I don't care. He obviously was tangled up in an operation with tentacles around the globe involving people and governments Too Big to Fail... It is fricking sick and sicker still that no one will be held to account. Sicker yet, our own government is complicit and has been since at least 2006 but most likely for decades upon decades.

Big Promises lead to Big Appointments/Elections lead to Big Disappointments... can NO ONE cut the head off this beast?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40367 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Agreed, but sometimes you have to take the good with the bad.


If the “bad” is that they control our government via blackmail/extortion tied to child rape, I’m ok with foregoing the “good”
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:44 pm to
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We all know Epstein was a Mossad agent. We need Israel as allies because of the Middle East foothold it provides us. I hate it as much as the next of us, but it is a fact of life.



Decades of child raping is OK because we need an "ally" in the middle east!
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:45 pm to
Did I say to read just what I posted in this thread? No.

If you are accusing someone of being a Deep State whateverthefrick you labeled me as, at least have the common courtesy of seeing their post history.

I don't want to protect the Israelis or anyone on that list. I also don't want to lose global interest and resources if I am the President of the United States of America, regardless of my personal opinion, if I am putting myself in those shoes.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40367 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:45 pm to
Look man you just have to accept some kids getting drugged and arse raped if you want to be allies with israel.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13714 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:46 pm to
Somebody big in government needs to step up and explain the entire operation and who was behind it and what occurred, don’t give a rip what country gets hurt, expose everyone and everything to wake folks up. Now if there is nothing to expose state that but no release because of not gonna cut it
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:46 pm to
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goldennugget


You're not very good at reading, are you fella?

Care to quote where I said it was ok, tasteful, acceptable, etc.?

Dumbass.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17086 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:47 pm to
Scenario: 80% of congress, 50% of SCOTUS, 100% of POTUS, and the equivalent in every world power is on the list.

Go!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40367 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:47 pm to
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I don't want to protect the Israelis or anyone on that list. I also don't want to lose global interest and resources if I am the President of the United States of America, regardless of my personal opinion, if I am putting myself in those shoes.


Where is israel going to go if we “expose” them.


We are the only country on earth that controls their continued existence.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:48 pm to
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If the “bad” is that they control our government via blackmail/extortion tied to child rape, I’m ok with foregoing the “good”


Controlled. And POTUS is working on ridding them of that effect on our government by pushing his agenda of fiscal reform, elimination of fraud, and politically putting those leaders susceptible to the grift at odds with their constituencies.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101973 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Already tired of the Bondi coverups. SMH


It's definitely Trumps decision. Can't believe yall are blaming Pam
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
9938 posts
Posted on 3/7/25 at 12:49 pm to
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We are the only country on earth that controls their continued existence.


Because it is politically and militarily advanageous for us against other potential enemies like Iran, North Kora, China...

I'm not sure how what I am saying is controversial.
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