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re: Nathan Bedford Forest bust to be removed from TN capitol

Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 9:53 am to
Crime in Memphis will probably stop tomorrow.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:03 am to
Also the commander at the battle of fort pillow. Where hundreds of surrendering soldiers, mostly black were killed,
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:06 am to
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Nathan Bedford Forrest


Was the greatest military mind the Tri-Star state has ever produced, and a true native son. Forrest espoused racial reconciliation after the war, and was at the forefront of rebuilding the communities that were destroyed during the war. The US tried, and failed miserably, to blame him for Ft Pillow. Marxist Historians have straight up fabricated bullshite about the man.

Had Davis listened to Forrest, we wouldn't be in this mess. When it's time for rd 2, Less Lee, More Forrest.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:21 am to
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People who continually parrot this line have no knowledge of the man, his time, or his greatness as a military commander.

So was he the first Grand Wiz of the kkk or not?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18998 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:24 am to
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I'm not okay with the removing statues crowd, but General Froest shouldn't have been there in the state capital in the first place.

1. Are you a Tennessean?

2. State can do what state wants to do.

3. He was a figure to the state's history.

4. He was a democrat, so I don't mind it being removed, but it should stay to remind the democrats.

Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
4640 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:32 am to
Multi generation Tennesseean here. I think if anything his bust should be on exhibit at the state capitol in a way that highlights the shame he brought onto our state. Can’t erase history. Complex, yet ultimately dark and evil legacy.

Otherwise totally fine with them removing any mention of his existence from our actual capitol building. His bust should be displayed with proper context at a location like the Tennessee State museum just a few blocks down the hill.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 10:36 am
Posted by Confederate Brass
Member since Jun 2021
135 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:32 am to
Newsflash:
The KKK was merely a subversive method of fighting back against the (((duplicitous Tyranny))) of the EXACT SAME pignosed Pedophile Banking Cartel Zionista that are controlling us TODAY.

Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
4640 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:35 am to


Tell that to the thousands of black and white Republicans that had to swing from a tree that opinion.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:42 am to
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Also the commander at the battle of fort pillow. Where hundreds of surrendering soldiers, mostly black were killed,


The battle which the federals were initially given an ultimatum to surrender prior to the fight but refused.

And it’s clear that there was not a complete surrender upon storm of the fort. There was resistance.

And command broke down upon entering the fort. Forrest didn’t ride into the fort… point his sword… and demand the killing of black soldiers. Didn’t happen. Could he have done more to not allow it? Sure. Could the federal commanders have surrendered and prevented an overwhelming defeat by pissed off Confederates? Yes they could have.

The history of Fort Pillow was written by the North who used it as a rallying cry.

And as far as taking POWs…. You do know Sherman used Confederate POWs to clear minefields.. right? And destroyed innocent southerner’s homes and property? He also said.. “ “War is cruel. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”

Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:45 am to
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State can do what state wants to do.


It depends.

These statues, and monuments were erected by southerners.

If southerners want to take them down, that would be one thing. The problem is that these monuments being destroyed by outsiders, who live in the south, but hate the south, and hate southerners.

And they’re not doing it because or anything that happened in the past.

It’s a battle for control of over the south, as it exists now, and it’s an attempt to destroy southern culture, and replace it with their own, foreign values.

It’s a show of force. Yes. But worse, they’re making room for their own culture, which they will cram down our throats.
This post was edited on 7/21/21 at 10:46 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16322 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:45 am to
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So was he the first Grand Wiz of the kkk or not?


Did he form the KKK to terrorize blacks or not? What was the motivation if not? Why did he attempt to disband it?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16726 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:47 am to
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Nathan Bedford Forest bust to be removed from TN capitol


They could move it to Gainsville Al to the confederate cemetary there. Gainsville is where he and his men were paroled by the union.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:49 am to
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And the first grand wizard of the KKK


... and a Democrat.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18998 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:50 am to
I understand your thoughts. Many historians credit him with being a grand wiz of the kkk. Do you know if this is accurate or not? We do know that he was a democrat. Thanks.
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
4640 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:54 am to
No clue what his specific title was, just know that he is credited with founding the Ku Klux Klann. A stain to the legacy of our state and country
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
18998 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:56 am to
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Did he form the KKK to terrorize blacks or not? What was the motivation if not? Why did he attempt to disband it?

I don't know. My question that I don't know the answer is if he was a grand wiz of the kkk. Do you know, because I don't.

I am familiar with the KKK having roots in it's establishment to keep Republicans from reconstruction.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38649 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:57 am to
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Remove Tom Hanks next


You leave Tom Hanks alone! That man is an American treasure and must be protected at all costs!
Posted by BIGFOOD
Member since Jun 2011
12990 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 10:59 am to
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Did he form the KKK to terrorize blacks or not? What was the motivation if not? Why did he attempt to disband it?




was fixing to post similar. From memory of my college years, the great NBF left the KKK because of the direction it took (targeting blacks). He wanted nothing to do with that.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16322 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:10 am to
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I don't know.


Seems to be a recurring fact upon folks with an unmovable opinion on a subject they they have because of someone else’s propaganda.

Not just on the Civil War either.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
10895 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 11:17 am to
No war generals age well. That’s why I think it’s good that we no longer glorify them.

We can remember history without statues.
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