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re: Nadler: You can't impeach president if voters won't support it

Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:42 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:42 am to
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I have. It seems pretty subjective. Almost like whatever the House wants it to be. Would you agree?


Nope.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:45 am to
No. It's not political and not subjective to emotion. Crime and misdemeanor. Black and white.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:47 am to
Do you have a link or anything? Are you saying you need an actual criminal indictment or conviction as a prerequisite?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:47 am to
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We have to hold a series of hearings, we have to hold the investigations


Wait, what have they been doing the last 2 and a half years?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:47 am to
Any statute or case law backing that up?
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:49 am to
I disagree with Nadler. I don’t think I’m behind impeachment; however, if you truly believe he did something impeachable, then you are honor bound to bring the charges. Mueller wouldn’t accuse of a crime because Trump couldn’t defend himself. I wish the Democrats would take the same approach
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:49 am to
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63.8% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


ISWYDT
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:49 am to
LINK

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The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:50 am to
???
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:51 am to
High crimes and misdemeanors seems like a term of art. What did it mean when the Founders wrote it?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:51 am to
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Impeachment is a political act

Here I was believing it was a constitutional act.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:51 am to
Crimes is fairly clear.

Misdemeanors gets murky.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:52 am to
What’s a high crime? Is that defined anywhere?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:52 am to
If only they had written papers that explained in plain words what they meant...
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:53 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:53 am to
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Any statute or case law backing that up?


High crime was a term used to describe a crime that could only be committed by someone in a position of elevated power in the government. A misdemeanor is a crime.

US v Burr.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19015 posts
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:53 am to
Que?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84588 posts
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:54 am to
I think there is ample historical record showing what high crimes and misdemeanors meant at the time of the Founders.

Are you aware of any of that historical record?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:54 am to
High crimes and misdemeanors are subjective to whatever the House thinks?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57250 posts
Posted on 6/2/19 at 9:54 am to
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What’s a high crime?


I thought you said you had researched this.
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