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re: My libtard coworker’s response to the J6 murder of Babbitt this morning:
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:36 pm to Dire Wolf
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:36 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
We can second guess the cops until the cows come home but she is alive if she doesn't try to break thru a barricaded door.
When dealing with law enforcement decisions, the scrutiny of judgement is on the person who chose to use lethal force and the reasoning behind it. When there are other officers present, all of whom are observing the same thing, and no one else decides it is a lethal force situation, the problem is not the unarmed woman who was not resisting arrest and was not under an attempted arrest.
The reason she died is the lone gunman with worse judgement than the deceased.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 4:37 pm
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:37 pm to CaptSpaulding
quote:
She got what she deserved.
she had plenty of warning...
sad she had to die though
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:40 pm to Dire Wolf
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but she wasn't innocent
You’re missing the point. Think proper use of force.
Was the officer hiding in the shadows facing an imminent threat of loss of life or serious bodily injury? Was it worth shooting in the direction of other officers and other non-threats? Did any other officer not hiding in the shadows perceive the threat to be less significant? Was anyone attempting to use any other form of control on her?
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:45 pm to Dire Wolf
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At what point, would the capital police been justified in firing? If it wasn’t right there
Police consistently take down tiny unarmed women through lower levels of control. Just because you have a weapon drawn does not mean using it is justified. It has to be scaled to the threat, not your weapon of choice.
Is this really that hard for you to grasp?
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:56 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:there's a video in another thread of an unarmed protestor "charging" bidens motorcade. Should she have been shot?
again she was charging at police. That is basically suicide
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:58 pm to Crimson1st
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So attacking and kicking at a door is grounds to lose your life?
Entirely depends on the door.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:27 pm to Dire Wolf
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Murder ? ? ? play stupid games win stupid prizes
Apply that same logic to
1. George Floyd
2. Breonna Taylor
3. Michael Brown
4. Tamir rice
5. Daunte Wright
Off the top of my head. But no we have states like California who just spent taxpayers dollars to prepare a 5°0 page report on how, who , why we need to pay reparations
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:32 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:
You’re missing the point. Think proper use of force.
Was the officer hiding in the shadows facing an imminent threat of loss of life or serious bodily injury? Was it worth shooting in the direction of other officers and other non-threats? Did any other officer not hiding in the shadows perceive the threat to be less significant? Was anyone attempting to use any other form of control on her?
Well I've got the solution, we will send just YOU to everywhere that " crimes" happen with a can if mace, once you feel your life is in danger, just tell the criminal, timeout I need to go get my gun
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:33 pm to Wardniner01
Sorry, read your post wrong, my mistake but my post applies to most lefties
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:48 pm to Wardniner01
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Well I've got the solution, we will send just YOU to everywhere that " crimes" happen with a can if mace, once you feel your life is in danger, just tell the criminal, timeout I need to go get my gun
I can’t be everywhere. But I have served 30 years in law enforcement. State and Federal. Always de-escalated and took control. Led a warrant team. Taught use of force. Drew my weapon many times. Never had to shoot.
I’m not rare. Officers are trained to do exactly what I have done throughout my career.
Edited: and when officers do not act as I have described, they are held accountable - except when executing Ashli Babbitt.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:51 pm to CaptSpaulding
quote:
She should have just complied
Damn, wonder how many riots could have been prevented if black males across the country would just heed this advice….
But that’s (D)ifferent
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:54 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:
again she was charging at police. That is basically suicide
So now she was charging? Thought she was just climbing through a window. I don’t think she was within 20 feet of the officer. And he was behind cover.
Officer just got away with murder. But in DC if you are a democrat, it’s known to happen.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:56 pm to jvilletiger25
They’re not liberals
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:59 pm to Dire Wolf
Like the board defended the cops from Uvalde? You people are morons who just repeat talking points and propaganda.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:17 pm to Willie Stroker
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I can’t be everywhere. But I have served 30 years in law enforcement. State and Federal.
Not being smart-arse or anything like, I've never served in law enforcement. But I am 40 years old and do not recall any point my life of seeing looting, riots, destroying people's businesses and livelihood at the rate of the past few years. Where one group has been told ANYTHING you say or do is wrong, you will be ostracized, if you are in law enforcement, you cannot enforce the law because if you do you're racist, but if you decide to hit, attack or run from cops, you have a get out of jail free card and don't worry because if something happens tomorrow your mom will be on TV with Ben crump and al Sharpton suing everyone while entire cities will be out stealing new TV Scott free. And if you live in California as long as you steal $999.99 or LESS, no worries you'll just get a misdemeanor.
I know some of the things I stated above have happened in the past in our country to certain groups prior to civil rights but just flip flopping and doing the opposite when have supposedly made so much progress as a nation and society is just stupid
Posted on 6/10/22 at 7:22 pm to Dire Wolf
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The people who shot arbery are white trash pieces of shite and deserve their jail time
Oh yeah I forgot, he was just out for a jog. Wasn't looking to steal anything from that construction site. And it wasn't his fault that he tried to take a loaded shotgun from a dude ready to defend himself?
So you believe Ashli Babbit did enough to warrant having her neck blown out BUT Arbery did not??? Sorry, not computing.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:25 pm to Bayoubred
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And it wasn't his fault that he tried to take a loaded shotgun from a dude ready to defend himself? So you believe Ashli Babbit did enough to warrant having her neck blown out BUT Arbery did not??? Sorry, not computing.
I watched most of the trial, but I’m forgetting some of the facts, so help me out if you would. Was Arbury trying to take a shotgun from a police officer who was giving him lawful commands to stop? If so, I didn’t realize the situations were so similar.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:36 pm to ApexTiger
I didn’t think he warned her at all
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:55 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:
The reason she died is the lone gunman with worse judgement than the deceased.
Apparently not
quote:
Police consistently take down tiny unarmed women through lower levels of control. Just because you have a weapon drawn does not mean using it is justified. It has to be scaled to the threat, not your weapon of choice. Is this really that hard for you to grasp?
She wasn’t the only one trying to get thru the door, just the first. They out numbered the police
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 6/10/22 at 8:57 pm to xxTIMMYxx
She was shot as she was climbing through window.
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