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re: My libtard coworker’s response to the J6 murder of Babbitt this morning:
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:00 pm to Townedrunkard
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:00 pm to Townedrunkard
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So now she was charging? Thought she was just climbing through a window. I don’t think she was within 20 feet of the officer. And he was behind cover.
Within feet of her. Why do you people insist on being retarded
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:05 pm to Dire Wolf
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She wasn’t the only one trying to get thru the door, just the first. They out numbered the police
She was shot climbing through an interior window. You sound dumb man. You’re arguing about whether someone was murdered or not and you don’t even know the basics of what happened.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:07 pm to jvilletiger25
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no that’s (D)ifferent.
FIFY
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:10 pm to SleepyJoe
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She was shot climbing through an interior window. You sound dumb man. You’re arguing about whether someone was murdered or not and you don’t even know the basics of what happened.
Thought it was double door with a window, excuse me. Doesn’t matter she still is climbing thru barricade with guns on the other side for whatever reason.
She is retard who played a retarded game. It’s not murder.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:14 pm to jvilletiger25
So there's somebody out there who needed reminding that liberalism exhibits all the characteristics of a death cult.
From the murder of millions of the unborn for convenience sake to the Terri Schiavo disaster - which was the most revealing of all.
Really thought you'd get a scintilla of understanding and compassion out of her regarding Ms. Babbitt?
So when you hear any of them commiserating or crying real crocodile tears over someone else's misfortune, it's strictly disingenuous posturing and theater.
From the murder of millions of the unborn for convenience sake to the Terri Schiavo disaster - which was the most revealing of all.
Really thought you'd get a scintilla of understanding and compassion out of her regarding Ms. Babbitt?
So when you hear any of them commiserating or crying real crocodile tears over someone else's misfortune, it's strictly disingenuous posturing and theater.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:20 pm to Dire Wolf
Doesn’t matter if she was a retard or not. Doing retarded things can get you killed absolutely. Killing someone for doing something retarded is murder.. unless it is justified. What’s the justification? If the only justification is that she was acting retarded, then it’s murder.
There’s video that can be watched. Several officers were right next to her. Why didn’t they take her down? The argument can be made that she wasn’t even climbing through the window and that she was shoved by the officers. Byrd have no commands. No warnings. Saw no weapon. So why did he shoot?
There’s video that can be watched. Several officers were right next to her. Why didn’t they take her down? The argument can be made that she wasn’t even climbing through the window and that she was shoved by the officers. Byrd have no commands. No warnings. Saw no weapon. So why did he shoot?
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:29 pm to SleepyJoe
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There’s video that can be watched. Several officers were right next to her. Why didn’t they take her down? The argument can be made that she wasn’t even climbing through the window and that she was shoved by the officers.
I can’t tell you what those cops were right thinking but it’s a tight area. They are out numbered. All it takes is one person taking a gun from an officer to really escalate things.
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The argument can be made that she wasn’t even climbing through the window and that she was shoved by the officers.
Give me a break dude they clearly trying to get thru glass
Posted on 6/10/22 at 9:36 pm to CaptSpaulding
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I watched most of the trial, but I’m forgetting some of the facts, so help me out if you would. Was Arbury trying to take a shotgun from a police officer who was giving him lawful commands to stop? If so, I didn’t realize the situations were so similar.
Google is your friend
Georgia Code
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS
ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS
§ 17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest
O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 6/10/22 at 10:27 pm to Dire Wolf
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Give me a break dude they clearly trying to get thru glass
Yep they broke the glass. How does that change anything? They could have broken the glass with the intention of climbing through, then realized it wasn’t a good idea. Babbitt gets pushed and loses her balance, grabs the frame of the window and the colored boy panicked and fired. That’s most likely what happened.
But regardless. What justifies the shooting? No other officer felt it was necessary to fire their weapon and shoot anyone. There’s a reason the boy was distraught after he shot Babbitt. He knew he fricked up.
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:00 pm to Wardniner01
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A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
If you were not talking out your arse just a little bit, you’d know that the Arbury situation didn’t meet one single piece of that criteria, and it isn’t even up for debate. It was quite possibly the most lopsided case of its kind.
So, I’ll ask again: how are the situations in any way similar?
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:00 pm to SleepyJoe
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There’s a reason the boy was distraught after he shot Babbitt.
That such dumb logic. No reasonable person wants to shot anyone
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They could have broken the glass with the intention of climbing through, then realized it wasn’t a good idea. Babbitt gets pushed and loses her balance, grabs the frame of the window and the colored boy panicked and fired. That’s most likely what happened.
A lot of assumptions here about her being pushed thru and losing her balance. The bottom of the frame is waist high so she would have to have been lifted up. Show where in the video that happens.
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That’s most likely what happened. But regardless. What justifies the shooting? No other officer felt it was necessary to fire their weapon and shoot anyone
No other officer on that side of the glass was near the window. Worst case, he has to wrestler her down while others are jumping the glass and disarm him.
The people in the capital didn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt at that point
Posted on 6/10/22 at 11:03 pm to Cosmo
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If it wasnt for this board I would have no idea there was a 1/6 thing last night
Dont watch the theater
Almost like the whole covid thing to a lesser degree.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 5:23 am to Dire Wolf
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Murder? play stupid games win stupid prizes
So what you’re saying is that Saint George won his stupid prize too? Thought so.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 7:10 am to FlatTownDawgTiger
So, when the Pussy Hatters stormed the Congressional Offices they should have been blown away?
They outnumbered security could not be stopped and were just as much a danger as Ashli Babbitt. They were in proximity to the very same people as the Capitol Protesters.
They outnumbered security could not be stopped and were just as much a danger as Ashli Babbitt. They were in proximity to the very same people as the Capitol Protesters.
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 7:11 am
Posted on 6/11/22 at 7:54 am to CaptSpaulding
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She got what she deserved.
So would you feel the same if cops shot and killed the 100’s of blm and Antifa people trashing federal buildings during the riots????
If not then you my guy are a retard leftist and thanks for proving it.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:12 am to Dire Wolf
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it is certainly reasonable outcome to expect when breaking and entering the capital
The Capitol has been stormed before and protestors allowed in (see the sit ins during the Kavanaugh Hearings) and it is not a posted cordoned zone like the WH or HMX-1. By your logic the Federal Marshals would have been justified opening fire on the ANTIFA thugs in Portland!
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:21 am to Willie Stroker
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You’re missing the point. Think proper use of force. Was the officer hiding in the shadows facing an imminent threat of loss of life or serious bodily injury? Was it worth shooting in the direction of other officers and other non-threats? Did any other officer not hiding in the shadows perceive the threat to be less significant? Was anyone attempting to use any other form of control on her?
Exactly, she was unarmed and she wasn’t posing a threat to anyone. I have trained ROEs and implemented Deadly Force. If the MPD officers got convicted then this guy needs to stand trial.
And I agree that the idiots that stormed the Capital where stupid. They fell into the trap the Democrats wanted. They wanted a spectacle to run 24/7 on the MSM.
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:27 am to Dire Wolf
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She is retard who played a retarded game. It’s not murder.
It is apparent that have no clue what constitutes the use of Deadly Force. This situation is text book of when not to use Deadly Force. This is coming from a DoD certified Force Protection Officer Instructor!
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:31 am to Dire Wolf
quote:idiot lowlife
Dire Wolf
Posted on 6/11/22 at 8:32 am to Dire Wolf
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That such dumb logic. No reasonable person wants to shot anyone
Yeah once again you proved you have no clue what you are talking about. I am extremely reasonable and if you violate the published ROEs and threatened me or my troops….I had no problem and didn’t loose any sleep.
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No other officer on that side of the glass was near the window. Worst case, he has to wrestler her down while others are jumping the glass and disarm him. The people in the capital didn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt at that point
You are basing your argument on assumptions and feelings. TO USE DEADLY FORCE THE PERP NEEDS TO BE ARMED WITH SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REASONABLY ASSUMED TO TAKE A LIFE. Now what was she armed with and what was she doing other than being a retard?
* Edit: you can use Deadly Force in certain situations without a warning but those are extremely rare (WH, HMX-1 and nuclear weapons facilities are examples)
This post was edited on 6/11/22 at 8:34 am
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