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Muh Palestinians
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:14 pm
With the hubbub about US possibly withdrawing from UN human rights council over hypocrisy over treatment of Israel be treatment of massive human rights offenders like Iran, I'm seeing all these comments from the usual suspects about all the horrible things the Israel is doing to those poor Palestinian victims. But let's focus a little on who the Palestinians are and what they do.
Palestinians were not vivtims who were forced out of Israel by the evil jews, as evidenced by the large population of Arab citizens still in Israel, who have been there since 1948. The Palestinians are the decendents of the scum who decided to abandon their neighbors and their newly minted country (that they had full citizenship in) to give the invading Arab armies a clear shot to massacre those filthy Jews, and maybe sweep back in afterwards and grab some land from their dead former neighbors. Only, surprise, the Arabs got their assess simultaneously kicked by a country that didn't even have a real army and was outnumbered 10 to 1, which received no outside help from the cowardly un which had just voted to ratify the new state. Whoops. So, quite rightly, those who stayed and fought declined to let those who didn't back in.
So why did the surrounding arab countries not take in their poor Palestinian neighbors, since it was their cowardly attack that led to them being exiled? Well it's because even though those countries are full of your run off the mill Jew hating Muslims, the Palestinians are so nuts that even the rest of the me thinks they are crazy and they don't want them. Look up black September, if you are curious as to why they are not just Jordanian now ( which would be completely logical, since they are ethically and culturally identical to Jordanians, Jordan being the already existing Arab state in Palestine, which occupies 80% of the territory already).
Present day, Palestinians are just a convenient pawn that the greater Arab world likes to use to keep hated of the Jews boiling. Meanwhile the Palestinians democratically elected a terrorist organisation to lead their country, and now the slightly more sane ones can't remove them from political power in Gaza. They are a people completely dedicated to terrorism. They send their own kids into check points and pizza parlors with bombs, they riot and rush security fences to give Hamas commandos cover. They incessantly shell Israeli neighborhoods full of families with rockets and mortar fire. I can't comprehend the forbearance the Israelis have shown in not pushing the lot of them into the Jordan River and being done with it
Palestinians were not vivtims who were forced out of Israel by the evil jews, as evidenced by the large population of Arab citizens still in Israel, who have been there since 1948. The Palestinians are the decendents of the scum who decided to abandon their neighbors and their newly minted country (that they had full citizenship in) to give the invading Arab armies a clear shot to massacre those filthy Jews, and maybe sweep back in afterwards and grab some land from their dead former neighbors. Only, surprise, the Arabs got their assess simultaneously kicked by a country that didn't even have a real army and was outnumbered 10 to 1, which received no outside help from the cowardly un which had just voted to ratify the new state. Whoops. So, quite rightly, those who stayed and fought declined to let those who didn't back in.
So why did the surrounding arab countries not take in their poor Palestinian neighbors, since it was their cowardly attack that led to them being exiled? Well it's because even though those countries are full of your run off the mill Jew hating Muslims, the Palestinians are so nuts that even the rest of the me thinks they are crazy and they don't want them. Look up black September, if you are curious as to why they are not just Jordanian now ( which would be completely logical, since they are ethically and culturally identical to Jordanians, Jordan being the already existing Arab state in Palestine, which occupies 80% of the territory already).
Present day, Palestinians are just a convenient pawn that the greater Arab world likes to use to keep hated of the Jews boiling. Meanwhile the Palestinians democratically elected a terrorist organisation to lead their country, and now the slightly more sane ones can't remove them from political power in Gaza. They are a people completely dedicated to terrorism. They send their own kids into check points and pizza parlors with bombs, they riot and rush security fences to give Hamas commandos cover. They incessantly shell Israeli neighborhoods full of families with rockets and mortar fire. I can't comprehend the forbearance the Israelis have shown in not pushing the lot of them into the Jordan River and being done with it
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 1:25 pm
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Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:19 pm to narddogg81
Is it entirely possible that BOTH the Israelites and Palestinians can/are evil?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:35 pm to narddogg81
Lol you sound like an idiot who has never taken the time to read the history of the Zionist invasion.
Blood Brothers by elias chacour. This book was written by a priest and given to me by someone who read it in their Baptist small group. While it preaches coming together, the first hand history will be a good introduction for you. That way you won't sound like such an obtuse idiot of history in the future.
Also, learn to use paragraphs they are your friend.
Blood Brothers by elias chacour. This book was written by a priest and given to me by someone who read it in their Baptist small group. While it preaches coming together, the first hand history will be a good introduction for you. That way you won't sound like such an obtuse idiot of history in the future.
Also, learn to use paragraphs they are your friend.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:38 pm to narddogg81
Nice wall of text.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:45 pm to narddogg81
I’m sure what you said here was insightful and interesting but I didn’t read any of it because it was way too long brah.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:52 pm to narddogg81
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Meanwhile the Palestinians democratically elected a terrorist organisation to lead their country, and now the slightly more save ones can't remove them from political power in Gaza
Putting cart before the horse here.
It was in retaliation to Hamas being duly and freely elected that the Bush43 administration labeled Hamas terrorists. It is once again an obvious and open attempt to overturn the Democracy of a sovereign people by the USA through threats and intimidation and eventually through economic pressure.
Jimmy Carter had attended as an invited observer to ensure the election was indeed free and fair. After the election, after Carter confirmed it was all above board, after the USA had threatened, THEN GW Bush signed the bill declaring Hamas a terrorist organization. Hamas has existed a LONG time, only when the people of Palestine elected them freely and fairly against the stated desires of the USA did the USA determine they were terrorists!
More than anything Russia has ever done to us, the USA openly campaigned against, threatened to retaliate, and actively did retaliate against a sovereign democratically elected foreign govt..
Of course, with that said I do NOT in any way disagree with Hamas being terroristic. They most definitely are. But they were LONG before GW Bush was in office. We can't be hypocrits! If we are gonna go around tampering with, or overtly attempting to overthrow, governments then we have no leg to stand on if other nations do the same to us!
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:52 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
quote:the Zionist invasion, ie the Jews legally purchasing land from the ottoman owners (btw completely revitalizing the dead economy of the region and drawing in tons of Arab immigration from Syria to what was a largely depopulated backwater toward the end of ottoman rule) in order to form a state in a stateless area that they had a strong cultural and historical tie to, as well as a continuous unbroken historical presence.
Lol you sound like an idiot who has never taken the time to read the history of the Zionist invasion.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:12 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Is it entirely possible that BOTH the Israelites and Palestinians can/are evil?
only for someone too lazy to look at the facts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:13 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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Lol you sound like an idiot who has never taken the time to read the history of the Zionist invasion.
and you sound like an idiot who has read history written by the kkk, plo, or hamas
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:15 pm to Sidicous
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It was in retaliation to Hamas being duly and freely elected that the Bush43 administration labeled Hamas terrorists
sorry but no
Hamas was designated a terrorist oranization in 1997. Which was about 10 years late, because they had been carrying out terrorist attacks against civilians since they were formed
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:27 pm to Ole War Skule
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only for someone too lazy to look at the facts
The Facts show both are to blame for horrible atrocities. They deserve each other.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:51 pm to narddogg81
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It was in retaliation to Hamas being duly and freely elected that the Bush43 administration labeled Hamas terrorists
sorry but no
Hamas was designated a terrorist organization in 1997. Which was about 10 years late, because they had been carrying out terrorist attacks against civilians since they were formed
You are correct, I did not remember it correctly. It was economic sanctions intended to pressure or starve out the Palestinian Authority (PA, which after the 1/2006 elections is led by Hamas instead of Fatah). That was when they actively started referring to PA as a terrorist organization. Of course pretty much all of Palestine and the population fits into the category terrorist and probably always will. For multiple generations terrorism is all they have known, it is their life (at least till they strap up and go boom).
Posted on 6/15/18 at 2:01 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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Is it entirely possible that BOTH the Israelites and Palestinians can/are evil?
Possible? Sure. There is just very little actual evidence of it on the Israeli side.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:02 pm to narddogg81
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the Zionist invasion, ie the Jews legally purchasing land from the ottoman owners
Um the Ottoman Empire was dissolved in 1918.
In between was this thing called the British Mandate.
Israel was created in 1947.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:05 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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The Facts show both are to blame for horrible atrocities. They deserve each other.
This. The vicinity around Jerusalem was peaceful from the Crusades to WWI. You can thank both the Europeans and the Israelis for creating the mess that is there now.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:17 pm to Antonio Moss
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Possible? Sure. There is just very little actual evidence of it on the Israeli side.
Wonder if that has anything to do with the israeli government liking to make revealing that evidence criminal
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:20 pm to bmy
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Wonder if that has anything to do with the israeli government liking to make revealing that evidence criminal
We all know the Israeli govt has no incriminating evidence to hide, so no one will ever be prosecuted. If they are prosecuted its because of fallacious and slanderous claims made by the enemies of Israel.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 3:29 pm to narddogg81
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forbearance the Israelis have shown in not pushing the lot of them into the Jordan River and being done with i
Posted on 6/16/18 at 2:17 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:um the majority of the Jews that migrated back to the area as part of the Zionist movement did so during the late ottoman period, and then again immediate following WWII there was an increase. They started migrating from Europe in an organized fashion as early as the 1850s (actually there were several much earlier attempts that never really too off), and yes they legally purchased every but if land acquired up until the war in 1948, and most of it was from absentee ottoman land owners. A great deal of the land they were purchasing at the time was unimproved desert, which they since made bloom. The British put extremely strict immigration restrictions on Jews returning to Palestine between the wars. It helped contribute to the Holocaust death toll because millions of Jews who would otherwise have fled the German sphere of influence to palestine between the wars were prevented from doing so. The British had a hard on for the Arabs because they helped against the ottomans during WWII (Lawrence of Arabia). They also just unilaterally gave away 80% of the territory of Palestine to Abdullah son of Sharif Hussein (the guy who started the Arab revolt), when the hashemites lost power in what is now saudia Arabia. They gave Iraq to another of his sons.
Um the Ottoman Empire was dissolved in 1918.
In between was this thing called the British Mandate.
Israel was created in 1947.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 2:30 am
Posted on 6/16/18 at 4:29 am to Antonio Moss
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Possible? Sure. There is just very little actual evidence of it on the Israeli side.
Just Israel bull dozing Palestinian homes
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He's a child. His friends are playing in the street and he is in handcuffs. I couldn't stop crying in court. My heart feels like it's going to explode.''
The human rights organisation Defence for Children International (DCI) has written a report accusing Israel's military of what it describes as the systematic and institutionalised ill-treatment and torture of Palestinian children by the Israeli authorities.
Gerard Horton is an international lawyer for DCI. He said Mohammad's Ballasi's story is a familiar one.
''We see these stories again and again. Israel is a signatory to the UN convention against torture. It's also a signatory to the UN convention on the rights of the child - and under customary international law, it's not permissible to mistreat and torture, particularly children, who are obviously more vulnerable than adults."
He told me that Israel arrested 9,000 Palestinians last year. Seven hundred of those were children.
Mr Horton says the military tribunals need to process cases quickly.
DCI believes the system is designed so that it is in an
adult or a child's interest to plead guilty.
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arrested.
''They dragged me from my home by the scruff of the neck. The more I cried the more they choked me," he said.
"My mum was screaming. They pulled me along on my stomach. My knees were bleeding. They beat me with their guns and kicked me all the way to the jeep.
"They cuffed my hands and legs, blind-folded me and left me there for 24 hours. I thought I was going to die.
"Later interrogators wanted me to tell on other people. I wouldn't. They beat me with plastic chairs. They told me to sign a paper written in Hebrew. I don't read or speak it. Because I signed it they put me in jail.''
Israel's military denies any suggestion that the abuse of young Palestinians is routine, but the army says it has to guard against Palestinian children involved in what it describes as "acts of terror".
LINK
Sounds like what the Nazis did to the Jews.
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SOLDIERS CONVICTED OF USING BOY AS HUMAN SHIELD
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Two Israeli soldiers who used a nine-year-old Palestinian boy as a human shield were given suspended sentences and demoted after being convicted of "inappropriate conduct".
The unnamed soldiers, from the Givati Brigade, ordered Majeh Rabah, from the Tel al-Hawa neighbourhood in Gaza City, to check bags for explosives in January 2009, towards the end of Israel's three-week offensive.
LINK
Nothing to see here. Move along
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 4:33 am
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