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MSN is clinically insane (article re: Debt Limit)
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:26 pm
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This is your classic clever argument.
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The other more realistic option is for Biden to simply order the government to keep borrowing money. To do so he could invoke the 14th Amendment of the Constitution, Section 4, which states, “The validity of the public debt of the United States … shall not be questioned.”
According to a New York Times story this week — which seems like a trial balloon — the Biden administration is seriously considering such a tactic. The idea is not without problems: Republicans in Congress would almost certainly bring a legal challenge, and while the case winds its way through the legal system for an almost certain stop at the Supreme Court, it would likely raise borrowing costs.
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What about the legal challenges to executive action? The court’s more right-wing members (Thomas, Alito, possibly Gorsuch) would likely vote to strike down Biden’s order, creating more economic havoc. But if the court wants to neutralize the growing public anger over last year’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade — and the now steady drumbeat of ethics scandals — not plunging the country into economic ruin would be an excellent place to start. Upholding Biden’s order or taking a legal out and saying that no one has standing to challenge the president’s decision would surely take public pressure off the high court. And the move would reassure financial markets that the country will never have to go through the charade of debt limit politics again.
This is your classic clever argument.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
The courts obviously aren't supposed to operate based on public opinion. Stupid take IMHO.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
It's going to be very ugly when the dollar collapses...
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
The author, Michael A. Cohen, is a massive NPC. As such, he either has zero understanding of economics or just thinks he does and is trying to "just the tip" MMT into our economic system.
"I promise, if you don't like it I'll pull it right back out..."
"I promise, if you don't like it I'll pull it right back out..."
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
Msn, now do an article about “shall not be infringed”
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm surprised that previous Democrat Presidents have not tried this route. If this were to somehow be constitutional ( it's not ) , this would effectively emasculate Congress.
If Congress has the power of the purse then Congress should certainly have the right to determine what gets funded, which is different from debts.....or is it? I would guess that the argument is the term "debt limit" . If you wanted to loosely interpret, then I would guess that any spending then becomes "debt" that would have to be honored as the 14th suggests.
That would force Congress to be a rubber stamp on the admin....any admin.
If Congress has the power of the purse then Congress should certainly have the right to determine what gets funded, which is different from debts.....or is it? I would guess that the argument is the term "debt limit" . If you wanted to loosely interpret, then I would guess that any spending then becomes "debt" that would have to be honored as the 14th suggests.
That would force Congress to be a rubber stamp on the admin....any admin.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Apparently there are Treasury employees suing based on the similar argument....I wonder where they got that idea from.
Something about they will have to choose what to pay or not, so Yellen should just ignore the debt limit.
Something about they will have to choose what to pay or not, so Yellen should just ignore the debt limit.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 4:35 pm to KiwiHead
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If this were to somehow be constitutional ( it's not ) , this would effectively emasculate Congress.
Yeah the argument is that nobody would have standing to challenge a President overstepping his authority.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 6:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
If asserted, this would costitute a power grab and futur administrations would be under no obligations to even attempt to consult with Congress.
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