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re: More ships in Venezuela at risk of seizure

Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:04 pm to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27636 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Germany was sinking our merchant ships left and right for a couple of years and we didn’t consider an act of war until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

It was an act of aggressive war even if we didn’t fight back. That’s actually a good example to consider.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:04 pm to
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Your first part of the response is a deflection - ownership is irrelevant if the ship has been sanctioned


My response was specific to the person I responded to, and his/her post.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85616 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:06 pm to
Lol
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

It was an act of aggressive war even if we didn’t fight back. That’s actually a good example to consider.


Ok. Let’s say I concede your point. It’s an aggressive act. Maybe even an act of war.

What of it? International Law? Who’s gonna enforce it? What’s Venezuela gonna do? You think Russia or China are gonna send their ships over to engage with the US Navy in our own back yard?

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38119 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

The issue is whether the US is engaging in aggressive war
Well, it can't be that. Deep State Donnie promised no new wars. And the cult will tell you, he never lies.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:07 pm to
quote:


What of it? International Law? Who’s gonna enforce it? What’s Venezuela gonna do?


We're the biggest bully on the block, so no one.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:08 pm to
Exactly.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

Deep State Donnie promised no new wars


Police action....wink
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5669 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:10 pm to
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Literal theft.


Please explain?
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38119 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:11 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:12 pm to
I;m going to be nice here.

Y'all need to read the original post and the response..

quote:

1. take the oil and replenish our strategic reserves.


Literal theft.


Taking their oil to replenish our reserves is literal theft.
This post was edited on 12/11/25 at 8:14 pm
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:13 pm to
We’re just getting our shite back
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:14 pm to
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We’re just getting our shite back


Their oil was never ours.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:15 pm to
Pretty sure a lot of the rigs that pumped that were.

They can consider it our cut.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1921 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:18 pm to
So you complain about tariffs and prices but okay with Venezuela disrupting global trade with ships that skirt our sanctions? You sound about American as the Somali in Minnesota.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38815 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:19 pm to
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Any other deflections you want to throw out due to your inability to actually discuss issues? Might as well get it all out of your system now.


I think we are witnessing a person that suffers from TDS.

Seriously. You okay?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:20 pm to
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Pretty sure a lot of the rigs that pumped that were.


Neither you or I know for sure, but I do know a Chinese company built many of the rigs there. Refineries, not sure.

But taking the oil for our own use with no compensation is piracy.
Posted by CapnKangaroo
Member since Dec 2025
484 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:21 pm to
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Neither you or I know for sure, but I do know a Chinese company built many of the rigs there. Refineries, not sure. But taking the oil for our own use with no compensation is piracy.


Maybe China will do something about then
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:22 pm to
quote:


So you complain about tariffs and prices but okay with Venezuela disrupting global trade with ships that skirt our sanctions?


The discussion was about stealing oil for our own reserves.
Posted by Jugbow
Member since Nov 2025
1921 posts
Posted on 12/11/25 at 8:24 pm to
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The discussion was about stealing oil for our own reserves.


That Biden did. That isn’t what you’re arguing though.
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