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Moorish invasion of Spain in the olden days is what Europe is heading toward now.

Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:03 pm
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:03 pm
European powers need to put their navies in the Mediterranean now. End the Schengen agreement. Pull up the drawbridges. Save our culture. Spain was unrecognizable when the Moors from North Africa invaded and Islamified Spain, which had been a Christian powerhouse. In 1492, the Spanish reclaimed their peninsula, but PC culture is trying to bring that back.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 8:04 pm
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:03 pm to
It was the Moops.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:04 pm to
It's a misprint.
Posted by Loserman
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:05 pm to
$1. To George Costanza
Posted by shrevetigertom
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:06 pm to
Oh no, it was the Moops.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:07 pm to
Posted by Bison
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:11 pm to
So a renaissance of science, arts, architecture, technological advancements?





The Alhambra in Spain which the Moors built is one of the most renowned castles in the world and its almost 700 years old.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:47 pm to
Spain was a Christian powerhouse before the Islamic invasion? Good lord... what is now Spain was borderline irrelevant prior to the Islamic invasion, other than being disputed territory. Spain became a Christian power after the Reconquista. Go read a book
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 8:49 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:51 pm to
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End the Schengen agreement.


Now hold on, you don't have to end Schengen to stop the invasion. The nations of the EU just have to come together a sign a treaty establishing a common external immigration policy that stems the invasion and has the whole of Europe helping to protect the external borders from migrants.

Right now, the immigration policy for the whole of Europe is being dictated by Italy and Greece who are too poor and weak to stop the flow of migrants. Once they get there, they can go anywhere. Rather than have everyone's immigration policy decided by the weakest link, they need to just decide on one policy and all work together to defend it.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 8:52 pm to
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So a renaissance of science, arts, architecture, technological advancements?


Why is it that self-loathing pathetic wretches grab on to ANYBODY other than their group to rhetorically fellate?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:22 pm to
Eh, methinks you don't know much about Spanish history.

Before the Moors it was the Visigoths. Do you think they were the Spanish originators? Nope. And before them the Roman empire ruled the Iberian peninsula, who took it away from someone else.

When the Moors conquered the Visigoths they ruled for roughly 700 years. Longer than the current "Spaniards" actually.

History is an interesting thing. If you go back far enough you realize some group was always taken over by some other group.

Who really has claim to geographical areas? The most powerful at that time, that's who.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 9:26 pm
Posted by TheFolker
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:29 pm to
I agree he doesn’t know much history, but his point is valid.
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If you go back far enough you realize some group was always taken over by some other group.

This is true enough, and if anything it reinforces the idea that Europe must protect itself.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:44 pm to
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So a renaissance of science, arts, architecture, technological advancements?

No, not Europe after the Moops were beaten back. Before that. Yes, they knocked down churches and replaced them with some pretty mosques and other shite, as is their shitty tradition.

Man, you don't just watch your wife get nailed by the bull. You take his dick all the way up your own arse too, don't you?
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:55 pm to
That's ugly. Look what they did to the Hagia Sophia in Turkey. Was once a beautiful Christian church, now it's an abomination.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:58 pm to
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Who really has claim to geographical areas? The most powerful at that time, that's who.




This!
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 10:02 pm to
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but his point is valid.


His entire premise is off.

I could actually argue that Muslims have more of a claim to Spain than the current Catholic Spaniards. After all they ruled for much longer.

It was just an overall bad thread. Simply say "If Europe wants to preserve their current culture, they need to fight immigration."

He used a horrible example.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 10:03 pm to
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Spain was unrecognizable when the Moors from North Africa invaded and Islamified Spain, which had been a Christian powerhouse.


I'm not trying to rationalize modern Islam or anything like that. I believe it encourages violence. But your statement about the history of Spain is wrong. In fact, the local population peacefully converted to Islam. Evidence suggests that most Muslims in Spain were not immigrants from North Africa. They were Spaniards (i.e., Iberians).

It also just so happens that the Islamic culture of that time was one of the most learned cultures of its day. The university at Cordoba was the best in Europe during that time. Medieval Islamic culture valued knowledge in a way that Medieval Christian culture did not.

Again, I'm not saying this to excuse modern Islam or jihadism or any of that crazy shite. But your historical narrative is wrong and somebody should tell you that.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 10:06 pm
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 10:07 pm to
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Was once a beautiful Christian church, now it's an abomination.


I'm by no means a Muslim sympathizer, I think Islam is one of the more abominable religions of the world, but don't doubt the beauty of their architecture.

Spain has some of the most stunning religious buildings that are a mixture of Moorish and Catholic influence. The Alhambra in Granada is unbelievable, and more so because of the Muslim architecture than the Catholic architecture.
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