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Monmouth poll that shows 50% think they won't receive tax cuts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:50 pm
Am I crazy, or will this poll be absolutely devastating to both the Democrats and the mainstream media if/when 80% or more of those who pay federal income taxes see a tax reduction and an overall increase in their take-home pay?
It really seems like the Dems are doubling down on a very bad hand here.
Am I overthinking this?
It really seems like the Dems are doubling down on a very bad hand here.
Am I overthinking this?
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Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:51 pm to SirWinston
Follow up - it's clear that the Democrats' pivot if/when their narrative goes sideways is to have the MSM point out "well these cuts are temporary - they will 'sunrise'" in 2024.
That's not a great argument IMO either. 2024 is lightyears away politically speaking.
That's not a great argument IMO either. 2024 is lightyears away politically speaking.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:51 pm to SirWinston
They will be surprised!
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:53 pm to SirWinston
quote:Yes
Am I overthinking this?
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:56 pm to SirWinston
Most people are easily influenced and not very bright. Even if they bring home more money, they'll be convinced they arent
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:57 pm to SirWinston
Two things. It speaks to how bad the republicans are at getting their message out and the need for 45's tweets. Second is I agree absolutely terrible for dems. Once the public sees them for the liars they are trust will continue to erode in the dems and the media
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Also it's very tough to get over a bad first impression and the House bill was a sharp stick in a lot of people's eyes. Most of the pain was dulled out in the Senate and conference but the damage was done.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:58 pm to SirWinston
quote:
Am I crazy, or will this poll be absolutely devastating to both the Democrats and the mainstream media if/when 80% or more of those who pay federal income taxes see a tax reduction and an overall increase in their take-home pay?
It really seems like the Dems are doubling down on a very bad hand here.
Am I overthinking this?
It reminds me of the polls where many people said they hated Obamacare, but liked the Affordable Care Act. Regardless of which side of the aisle they're on, Americans are really poorly informed.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most people are easily influenced and not very bright. Even if they bring home more money, they'll be convinced they arent
this should really keep expectations low
the idea that people are in a position to notice a decreased tax liability such that they can reward the party who made that happen is a little bit of wishful thinking, I believe
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:59 pm to Adam Banks
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Two things. It speaks to how bad the republicans are at getting their message out and the need for 45's tweets. Second is I agree absolutely terrible for dems. Once the public sees them for the liars they are trust will continue to erode in the dems and the media
I agree the GOP message is abysmal, but maybe that will turn into a positive on this singular issue.
There's literally going to be like 40% of the population who is pleasantly surprised when they see their paychecks in a few months and they're going to realize that they were lied to blatantly by celebrities, MSM, and Democrats.
The takeaway is that probably just about every independent / moderate / "swing" voter in the country is contained within this 40% who has been misled by the left.
It could potentially bring on a huge anti-Dem backlash for the midterms.
This post was edited on 12/19/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:00 pm to SirWinston
"Son, for you to always have a job and be able to support yourself...all you have to do is be above average. I've seen the average American. It ain't a difficult hill to climb"
- BHP's dad -
- BHP's dad -
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:01 pm to Pettifogger
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the idea that people are in a position to notice a decreased tax liability such that they can reward the party who made that happen is a little bit of wishful thinking, I believe
I think so to. It will still come down to a PR battle for influence despite any positive outcomes.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:03 pm to SirWinston
My thinking exactly. I believe the more people who don’t believe they’ll get a tax cut and do, the better it is for the conservatives!
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:03 pm to Iosh
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Also it's very tough to get over a bad first impression and the House bill was a sharp stick in a lot of people's eyes. Most of the pain was dulled out in the Senate and conference but the damage was done.
Why do you lie? The house Bill had bigger kickbacks for the middle class.
fricking piece of shite.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:07 pm to CptBengal
I don’t think he even realizes he is posting lies at this point. He is too far gone.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:08 pm to SirWinston
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Monmouth poll that shows 50% think they won't receive tax cuts
If true, this is the product of extreme fake news.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:13 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
Hmm. Probably 47%, that don’t pay taxes.
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:15 pm to SirWinston
40% can’t receive a tax cut because they don’t pay tax
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:29 pm to SirWinston
And the democrats are the only ones who would vote against making the cuts permanent in 2014.
“Oooh this republican bill is bad because it leaves us (democrats) with an opportunity to screw you over in 6 years”
“Oooh this republican bill is bad because it leaves us (democrats) with an opportunity to screw you over in 6 years”
Posted on 12/19/17 at 5:54 pm to member12
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If true, this is the product of public schools.
FIFY
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