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Mississippi District Court Judge with an interesting opinion re: felon in possession laws
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:46 pm
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:51 pm to boosiebadazz
It's about a felon owning a gun, he served the sentence and the gun is in his home.
Boozie is so lazy.
Boozie is so lazy.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:55 pm to ksayetiger
I understand your aversion to reading actual opinions.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:17 pm to boosiebadazz
A felon should not permanently lose his/her 2nd amendment rights, even if a "violent" crime is committed. If the individual remains so dangerous that they cannot be trusted with a gun, then they should remain incarcerated.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:20 pm to BengalOnTheBay
I understand the spirit of what you're saying, but once a felon serves his sentence, we can't give the government the power to extend it because the felon is still dangerous. Slippery slope
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:21 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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should not permanently lose his/her 2nd amendment rights, even if a "violent" crime is committed. If the individual remains so dangerous that they cannot be trusted with a gun, then they should remain incarcerated.
You can lose your rights. I’m ok with laws that restrict people as punishment beyond a jail sentence.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:23 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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A felon should not permanently lose his/her 2nd amendment rights, even if a "violent" crime is committed. If the individual remains so dangerous that they cannot be trusted with a gun, then they should remain incarcerated.
That’s a perfectly reasonable position to take.
But post-Bruen, you’re going to have to find multiple historical examples of same to back it up. And they all need to be from the era of the Founders.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:33 pm to TittleMeThis
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I understand the spirit of what you're saying, but once a felon serves his sentence, we can't give the government the power to extend it because the felon is still dangerous.
Of course, I wouldn't suggest otherwise. The 2nd point of my statement was aimed at sentencing. If "we" (as a society) believe Joe Smith is too dangerous to own a gun 40 years after he committed involuntary manslaughter when he was 17, then the sentencing should be changed. But "we" don't believe that, which is why he only served 5 years in prison. No reason he shouldn't get his 2nd amendment rights after his prison term is over.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:35 pm to C
You're as dumb as the liberals with their gun free zones. A prior felon with the intention of commiting a crime with a firearm is not going to care about any law. Once you've served your debt to society, all rights should be restored.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:40 pm to C
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You can lose your rights.
How? Rights come from God, not the government.
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I’m ok with laws that restrict people as punishment beyond a jail sentence.
So, if a "loss of rights" is part of the sentence for certain crimes, I think "we" (again, society as a whole) need to be a lot more upfront about that being a punishment for a crime rather than something that is seemingly "tossed in" after the fact.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:41 pm to C
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You can lose your rights.
Then they’re not rights, only privileges
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:50 pm to ksayetiger
quote:Did he serve the sentence in its entirety or was he released early?
he served the sentence and the gun is in his home
If released on parole/probation, the loss of rights should extend to meet the full sentence.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:32 pm to ksayetiger
They take away your ability to vote as well. Which is worse?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:59 pm to BengalOnTheBay
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A felon should not permanently lose his/her 2nd amendment rights,
this^^^^^^^^^^, this is the core of what i think "shall not be infringed upon" is all about
once a person in jail is released, and finished with their probation, that should be the end of any restriction of their rights.
period, end of story.
revoking the 2nd amendment right, should never go beyond the penalty time imposed on the criminal for their offence. i see no rational justification it should be for life if a man is free
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:07 pm to RealDawg
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They take away your ability to vote as well. Which is worse?
In WI you get the right to vote back after serving your sentence.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:15 pm to TittleMeThis
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we can't give the government the power to extend it because the felon is still dangerous. Slippery slope
What about being strict with parole and probation violations?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:16 pm to Dex Morgan
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Once you've served your debt to society, all rights should be restored.
Do you even high recidivism bro?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:19 pm to boosiebadazz
Carlton Reeves. Stopped reading there.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:42 pm to boosiebadazz
Outstanding!!
Yep, it appears we are there.
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Heller instead reassured us that “there will be time enough to
expound upon the historical justifications for the exceptions
we have mentioned if and when those exceptions come before
us.” 554 U.S. at 635. After Bruen, that time has arrived.
Yep, it appears we are there.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 3:56 am to idlewatcher
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Do you even high recidivism bro?
So, you want to base punishment on a potential future crime? frick off with your liberal thought-crime bullshite.
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