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re: Military not permitted to accept VBS invitation
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:28 pm to skeeter531
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:28 pm to skeeter531
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Welcome to the age of enlightenment, Pastor Hogan - where the military can march in a gay pride parade but they can’t hang out with six-year-olds at Vacation Bible School.
Progress. Ain't it great.
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Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:37 pm to Sal Minella
This is fricking stupid. I used to live in Joplin, MO, which is basically a stone's throw from Carthage.
People in this region of the country are very patriotic and raise their kids to be the same.
And ... try all you want ... keeping the military from visiting with these little kids ... will not change the way their parents are raising them.
So fricking stupid.
And I'm not even going to touch the gay pride shite or the fact that the USAF is all over being pro-transgender-LBGTZOXADHKDF#$@ and such crap.
People in this region of the country are very patriotic and raise their kids to be the same.
And ... try all you want ... keeping the military from visiting with these little kids ... will not change the way their parents are raising them.
So fricking stupid.
And I'm not even going to touch the gay pride shite or the fact that the USAF is all over being pro-transgender-LBGTZOXADHKDF#$@ and such crap.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 5:48 pm to navy
on the contrary, I would be THRILLED if our military went and visited little children at a mosque!!! It's good PR!
Posted on 7/25/14 at 8:42 pm to skeeter531
Why did not the VBS not setup a meeting spot not at the church.. I am sure they have a church bus or something close.. Setup off church grounds then invite them there is always loops holes around things..
Posted on 7/25/14 at 9:04 pm to skeeter531
This may piss some off, but this is the shite that the right needs to just stay away from and shut the hell up about. This is small cookies. Let's pick and choose our battles boys. 
Posted on 7/25/14 at 10:11 pm to SuperSaint
Systematic destruction of this country and the military is just one aspect.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 4:59 am to SuperSaint
As and ex member of the military I would wholeheartedly disagree.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 5:16 am to dante
quote:Gay isn't a religion, and it is the "Capital Pride Parade." This was a recent change in the spirit of inclusion. The rule is being followed just fine here.
ETA: You know we are screwed as a country when the military can't visit a church but they can march in a gay pride parade.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 5:43 am to ballscaster
What rule is followed? If the military visits a VBS they are violating the constitution? Your world view and mine are obviously different. I can separate my religion and my dedication and duty to country. You must not be able to do such.
"Capital Pride Parade." , Every time I hear 'Pride' now I have a visual of gaydom. Thanks be to gays.
If the military wants to participate so be it, if the military wants to visit a mosque, so be it, if the military wants to visit a synagogue, let them go. We should not be discriminating by eliminating where and with whom they visit.
"Capital Pride Parade." , Every time I hear 'Pride' now I have a visual of gaydom. Thanks be to gays.
If the military wants to participate so be it, if the military wants to visit a mosque, so be it, if the military wants to visit a synagogue, let them go. We should not be discriminating by eliminating where and with whom they visit.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 6:51 am to themunch
quote:From the first page of this thread:
What rule is followed?
quote:
quote: It states: “Army participation must not selectively benefit (or appear to benefit) any person, group, or corporation (whether profit or nonprofit); religion, sect, religious or sectarian group, or quasi-religious or ideological movement.” quote: The policy also states that troops are to avoid any activities that might involve or appear to involve the promotion, endorsement, or sponsorship of any religious or sectarian movement
quote:No, thanks be to you. Those are your thoughts and nobody else's. Be a man. Take personal responsibility.
"Capital Pride Parade." , Every time I hear 'Pride' now I have a visual of gaydom. Thanks be to gays.
quote:The military is secular, thank God.
If the military wants to participate so be it, if the military wants to visit a mosque, so be it, if the military wants to visit a synagogue, let them go. We should not be discriminating by eliminating where and with whom they visit.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 7:58 am to ballscaster
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“Army participation must not selectively benefit (or appear to benefit) any person, group, or corporation (whether profit or nonprofit); religion, sect, religious or sectarian group, or quasi-religious or ideological movement.”
The soldiers in the gay pride parade violated this very rule, unless you think the gays are not a "group."
quote:
The military is secular, thank God.
Yes, it is, but showing up at a church that wants to recognize and thank the soldiers for their service IS NOT an endorsement of a religion. No one said anything about them leading prayers or teaching Bible study. Had they been allowed to go it would have been nothing more than a PR stop. It's no more insidious than if the local Lions Club wanted to do the same.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 8:43 am to mtntiger
quote:"Capital Pride Parade." It's for everybody.
The soldiers in the gay pride parade violated this very rule, unless you think the gays are not a "group."
quote:If their going to a church isn't a big deal, then their not going to a church isn't a big deal, either, and it will be easy for all who make this claim to let it go.
Yes, it is, but showing up at a church that wants to recognize and thank the soldiers for their service IS NOT an endorsement of a religion. No one said anything about them leading prayers or teaching Bible study. Had they been allowed to go it would have been nothing more than a PR stop. It's no more insidious than if the local Lions Club wanted to do the same.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:05 am to ballscaster
quote:
quote:
"Capital Pride Parade." , Every time I hear 'Pride' now I have a visual of gaydom. Thanks be to gays.
No, thanks be to you. Those are your thoughts and nobody else's. Be a man. Take personal responsibility.
Be intellectually honest with yourself. It's a gay pride parade. Don't believe me. Ask the people who organize Capital Pride. LINK
"Q. Do you have to identify as lesbian, gay, bi-sexual, or transgender to attend Capital Pride events?
A. No! Capital Pride welcomes all supporters and members of the LGBT community."
And themunch is right on the term "pride" being associated with the gay community. LINK
And FTR, I'm retired military, wouldn't march in a gay pride parade, and I don't give two shits that about who's gay or not.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:09 am to ballscaster
quote:We have churches on base, so would I not be allowed to attend a function at the base church?
The military is secular, thank God.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:16 am to Fireman17
quote:Yeah. Go ahead and transport a bunch of kids in a bus or buses. That's a lot safer and more convenient than having a few national Guardsmen in a Humvee coming to them.
Why did not the VBS not setup a meeting spot not at the church.. I am sure they have a church bus or something close.. Setup off church grounds then invite them there is always loops holes around things..
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:20 am to ballscaster
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"Capital Pride Parade." It's for everybody.
Don't be obtuse. That parade was to recognize, glorify, and bring attention to the gay lifestyle.
I'm sure there were plenty of anti-gay groups represented at this parade.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:56 am to navy
quote:As log as you sing this tune, the "bullshite" will continue.
And I'm not even going to touch the gay pride shite or the fact that the USAF is all over being pro-transgender-LBGTZOXADHKDF#$@ and such crap.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 10:09 am
Posted on 7/26/14 at 9:58 am to Sal Minella
quote:Why ask when I've been to it before? All types there. Pride isn't a "group."
Be intellectually honest with yourself. It's a gay pride parade. Don't believe me. Ask the people who organize Capital Pride. LINK
quote:Why do you feel the need to qualify your views with this comment?
And FTR, I'm retired military, wouldn't march in a gay pride parade, and I don't give two shits that about who's gay or not.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:09 am to mtntiger
quote:You don't know why the Pride parades started, do you? These parades are a peaceful, positive alternative to the Stonewall Riots in Greenwich Village.
Don't be obtuse. That parade was to recognize, glorify, and bring attention to the gay lifestyle.
quote:Your comment is insanely stupid since being gay and being anti-gay are not equal opposites.
I'm sure there were plenty of anti-gay groups represented at this parade.
Not that your point deserves any further response, but LINK
It must be tough to be anti-gay. You should change. Being anti-gay is fricking retarded.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:14 am to ballscaster
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Why ask when I've been to it before? All types there. Pride isn't a "group."
I used their words, not mine. You can scream from the highest rooftop that it's not a gay event but it is. To say that the parade doesn't have an agenda discredits you. LINK
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Why do you feel the need to qualify your views with this comment?
Not really a need but just a quick background of where I'm coming from.
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