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re: Military not permitted to accept VBS invitation

Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Sal Minella
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:16 am to
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You don't know why the Pride parades started, do you?


You said "Pride" wasn't a group? Why do you capitalize the word to describe the parade? Confusing.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:20 am to
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You can scream from the highest rooftop that it's not a gay event but it is.
Whether it's a gay event or not is irrelevant. Gay isn't a protected, recognized group. Just ask this very board.
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To say that the parade doesn't have an agenda discredits you. LINK
Precisely why I would never make such an assertion.

The military has a policy that prohibits it from visiting a church under these circumstances (a few visits to mosques were paid in the last decade, frick yeah), but it does not have a policy prohibiting it from participating in a sanctioned event in public streets that welcomes literally everyone.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:22 am to
Bump


Can't go to a church.

But of course you can have this on base.
LINK
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:23 am to
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You said "Pride" wasn't a group?
Yes.
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Why do you capitalize the word to describe the parade?
It is capitalized in the name of the parade. On March 17, I capitalize even the word "Day" when referring to a popular series of Hibernophilic parades.
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Confusing
Must be tough.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:24 am to
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Can't go to a church. But of course you can have this on base.
Correct.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:26 am to
SO can I attend a function at the church on my base?
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:37 am to
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You said "Pride" wasn't a group?
Yes.


Capital Pride is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:38 am to
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SO can I attend a function at the church on my base?
I'm not your commanding officer.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:39 am to
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Capital Pride is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
Correct. This is part of Capital Pride's process of holding a peaceful assembly.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:45 am to
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SO can I attend a function at the church on my base? I'm not your commanding officer.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:49 am to
But it's not a group? Got it. It seems you have a partisan view of this issue. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:50 am to
Whether or not you attend a church function on an army base doesn't concern me or the issue in this thread.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:51 am to
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But it's not a group? Got it.
Come on, man. Don't turn 12 on me with the "Got it" posts followed by the faux "agree to disagree." Those are so goddamn stupid. Let's just talk.
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It seems you have a partisan view of this issue.
What's my party? Seems to me that you are one of many who are inching toward claiming victimhood in this situation.

I said that "Pride isn't a group." I didn't say "Capital Pride" isn't a group (maybe if the Church would steal that play out of the playbook, it wouldn't be such a joke). Before you cited that organization, I wouldn't have known what you cited. By saying "Pride isn't a group," I was continuing my point of patting the gay movement on the collective butt for altering their agenda a bit, as far as the parades themselves go, to be all-inclusive. After all, anybody can be proud to be who he or she (or whatever else) is, so I say, great job by anyone who throws a party and invites us all. I think that's pretty damn cool.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:53 am to
Sure it does, a church of Federal property, so I can't attend a VBS invitation then how can I possibly have a church on Federal property?


There is no room for common sense.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:58 am to
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Sure it does, a church of Federal property, so I can't attend a VBS invitation then how can I possibly have a church on Federal property?

I don't guess it's for you to say what does and doesn't concern me. Wanna talk about an issue, or do you just want to tell people what to do and how they're supposed to be?

By the way, the Church doesn't pay taxes, meaning the Church as an organization is getting military protection for free. It's America's way of encouraging religion, and I for one think that's a good thing and something that makes our country the greatest on earth. Enjoy it instead of let other people's recreational sexual activities ruin your day.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:03 am
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:01 am to
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I don't guess it's for you to say what does and doesn't concern me. Wanna talk about an issue, or do you just want to tell people what to do and how they're supposed to be?
WTF are you talking about?
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:03 am to
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Don't turn 12 on me with the "Got it" posts followed by the faux "agree to disagree." Those are so goddamn stupid. Let's just talk.


Funny that's why I tried to graciously disengage the dialogue with you. I tried to have a discussion but for whatever reason you deny the obvious. Bottom line, the Capital Pride Parade is a gay pride parade. I based this on reading the parade's on website. It may have participants who are not gay but again according to it's own website it is open to members and supporters of the LBGT community. The military said participation in that was OK and sending a HMMWV to a VBS so that 6 year olds could thank them for their service was not. In my partisan view, that's the military saying endorsement of one sectarian group is OK and another is not, that's just wrong.

I don't know what your party is. I'm guessing Socialist. The word "partisan" has multiple meanings.

Partisan - adjective, 1. prejudiced in favor of a particular cause.



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Seems to me that you are one of many who are inching toward claiming victimhood in this situation.
Not at all. I don't have a dog in the fight. Just blasting out my anonymous opinions on a message board.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:03 am to
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WTF are you talking about?

You keep aksing me a question that isn't mine to answer. Aks someone else. Don't aks me no mo.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73518 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:05 am to
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Enjoy it instead of let other people's recreational sexual activities ruin your day.
Where have I ever claimed that it does?

More to the point, again common sense needs to apply versus PC regulations hindering use of common sense.

I agree with the gay pride stuff on base, but also think it's fricking retarded to ban some Guardsmen from going to VBS.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:24 am to
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By the way, the Church doesn't pay taxes, meaning the Church as an organization is getting military protection for free


And neither does Capital Pride, getting the same "protection" for the same price. The difference is Capital Pride was allowed to include the military, this church, more specifically a group of 6 year olds at a church, was not.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:25 am
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