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re: Military not permitted to accept VBS invitation
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:16 am to ballscaster
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:16 am to ballscaster
quote:
You don't know why the Pride parades started, do you?
You said "Pride" wasn't a group? Why do you capitalize the word to describe the parade? Confusing.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:20 am to Sal Minella
quote:Whether it's a gay event or not is irrelevant. Gay isn't a protected, recognized group. Just ask this very board.
You can scream from the highest rooftop that it's not a gay event but it is.
quote:Precisely why I would never make such an assertion.
To say that the parade doesn't have an agenda discredits you. LINK
The military has a policy that prohibits it from visiting a church under these circumstances (a few visits to mosques were paid in the last decade, frick yeah), but it does not have a policy prohibiting it from participating in a sanctioned event in public streets that welcomes literally everyone.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:22 am to Jbird
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:23 am to Sal Minella
quote:Yes.
You said "Pride" wasn't a group?
quote:It is capitalized in the name of the parade. On March 17, I capitalize even the word "Day" when referring to a popular series of Hibernophilic parades.
Why do you capitalize the word to describe the parade?
quote:Must be tough.
Confusing
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:24 am to Jbird
quote:Correct.
Can't go to a church. But of course you can have this on base.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:26 am to ballscaster
SO can I attend a function at the church on my base?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:37 am to ballscaster
quote:
You said "Pride" wasn't a group?
Yes.
Capital Pride is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:38 am to Jbird
quote:I'm not your commanding officer.
SO can I attend a function at the church on my base?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:39 am to Sal Minella
quote:Correct. This is part of Capital Pride's process of holding a peaceful assembly.
Capital Pride is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:45 am to ballscaster
quote:
SO can I attend a function at the church on my base? I'm not your commanding officer.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:49 am to ballscaster
But it's not a group? Got it. It seems you have a partisan view of this issue. We'll have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:50 am to Jbird
Whether or not you attend a church function on an army base doesn't concern me or the issue in this thread.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:51 am to Sal Minella
quote:Come on, man. Don't turn 12 on me with the "Got it" posts followed by the faux "agree to disagree." Those are so goddamn stupid. Let's just talk.
But it's not a group? Got it.
quote:What's my party? Seems to me that you are one of many who are inching toward claiming victimhood in this situation.
It seems you have a partisan view of this issue.
I said that "Pride isn't a group." I didn't say "Capital Pride" isn't a group (maybe if the Church would steal that play out of the playbook, it wouldn't be such a joke). Before you cited that organization, I wouldn't have known what you cited. By saying "Pride isn't a group," I was continuing my point of patting the gay movement on the collective butt for altering their agenda a bit, as far as the parades themselves go, to be all-inclusive. After all, anybody can be proud to be who he or she (or whatever else) is, so I say, great job by anyone who throws a party and invites us all. I think that's pretty damn cool.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:53 am to ballscaster
Sure it does, a church of Federal property, so I can't attend a VBS invitation then how can I possibly have a church on Federal property?
There is no room for common sense.
There is no room for common sense.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 10:58 am to Jbird
quote:I don't guess it's for you to say what does and doesn't concern me. Wanna talk about an issue, or do you just want to tell people what to do and how they're supposed to be?
Sure it does, a church of Federal property, so I can't attend a VBS invitation then how can I possibly have a church on Federal property?
By the way, the Church doesn't pay taxes, meaning the Church as an organization is getting military protection for free. It's America's way of encouraging religion, and I for one think that's a good thing and something that makes our country the greatest on earth. Enjoy it instead of let other people's recreational sexual activities ruin your day.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:01 am to ballscaster
quote:WTF are you talking about?
I don't guess it's for you to say what does and doesn't concern me. Wanna talk about an issue, or do you just want to tell people what to do and how they're supposed to be?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:03 am to ballscaster
quote:
Don't turn 12 on me with the "Got it" posts followed by the faux "agree to disagree." Those are so goddamn stupid. Let's just talk.
Funny that's why I tried to graciously disengage the dialogue with you. I tried to have a discussion but for whatever reason you deny the obvious. Bottom line, the Capital Pride Parade is a gay pride parade. I based this on reading the parade's on website. It may have participants who are not gay but again according to it's own website it is open to members and supporters of the LBGT community. The military said participation in that was OK and sending a HMMWV to a VBS so that 6 year olds could thank them for their service was not. In my partisan view, that's the military saying endorsement of one sectarian group is OK and another is not, that's just wrong.
I don't know what your party is. I'm guessing Socialist. The word "partisan" has multiple meanings.
Partisan - adjective, 1. prejudiced in favor of a particular cause.
quote:Not at all. I don't have a dog in the fight. Just blasting out my anonymous opinions on a message board.
Seems to me that you are one of many who are inching toward claiming victimhood in this situation.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:03 am to Jbird
quote:You keep aksing me a question that isn't mine to answer. Aks someone else. Don't aks me no mo.
WTF are you talking about?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:05 am to ballscaster
quote:Where have I ever claimed that it does?
Enjoy it instead of let other people's recreational sexual activities ruin your day.
More to the point, again common sense needs to apply versus PC regulations hindering use of common sense.
I agree with the gay pride stuff on base, but also think it's fricking retarded to ban some Guardsmen from going to VBS.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 11:24 am to ballscaster
quote:
By the way, the Church doesn't pay taxes, meaning the Church as an organization is getting military protection for free
And neither does Capital Pride, getting the same "protection" for the same price. The difference is Capital Pride was allowed to include the military, this church, more specifically a group of 6 year olds at a church, was not.
This post was edited on 7/26/14 at 11:25 am
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