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re: Michael Whatley is new RNC chairman

Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12870 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:28 pm to
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The MAGA-tards are great at being anti-anti.....and haven't won shite since 2016

I despise McConnell but there is hell of lot more I agree with him on than any Democrat



They have to keep the establishment myth going as a way to pass blame when things go wrong
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:30 pm to
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Where is your evidence of me being a lib?
You seem to have quite the pompous, pretentious, condescending, better-than-thou, elitist, arrogant, know-it-all attitude. Exactly like every lib I've ever known.

While we are talking evidence, what is your evidence that you are to the "right" of me?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:32 pm to
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They have to keep the establishment myth going as a way to pass blame when things go wrong
Or it was the establishment working with the democrats (redundant, I know) that helped ensure that the dems won in 2018. 2020, and 2022.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:32 pm to
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While we are talking evidence, what is your evidence that you are to the "right" of me?


MAGA is collective. Collective is left of conservatism which promotes individual freedom.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:35 pm to
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MAGA is collective.
Wouldn't any group be considered "collective"? Even conservativism is a group and as a "collective", your argument would make the conservative group to the left of the individual conservatives.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12870 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:36 pm to
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While we are talking evidence, what is your evidence that you are to the "right" of me?



I'm comfortable criticizing Trump from the right. Only Trumpers are incapable of it


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Or it was the establishment working with the democrats (redundant, I know) that helped ensure that the dems won in 2018. 2020, and 2022.



This is painfully stupid
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 2:37 pm
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5042 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:39 pm to
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? Even conservativism is a group and as a "collective",


Conservatism is about the "individual".
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
1687 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:44 pm to
He had better learn to ballot harvest, bigly
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:48 pm to
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This is painfully stupid
Ahh, more of that pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, better-that-thou, elitist attitude from a "non-liberal"... Right?

Thing is this. Trump is the nominee, not desantis. The more you criticize Trump, the more you help biden. Which, I believe, is exactly your goal.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:50 pm to
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Conservatism is about the "individual".
True. But the other guy said that the MAGA group is a collective and to the left of conservatives. I'm simply saying that any group would be a collective.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12870 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:55 pm to
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Ahh, more of that pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant, better-that-thou, elitist attitude from a "non-liberal"... Right?


I have no problem being condescending to any moron that thinks "establishment" R's were trying to losing elections to the left

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Thing is this. Trump is the nominee, not desantis. The more you criticize Trump, the more you help biden. Which, I believe, is exactly your goal.


Criticizing Trump on this board will shift the election to Biden
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260958 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:56 pm to
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I'm simply saying that any group would be a collective.


Which is why identity politics has been reserved for the left.

Until 2016.
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
1659 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:57 pm to
I'll be voting for Trump in November, but this is a recurring theme with him. Hopefully he's learned his lesson after Bolton, Barr, Tillerson, Mattis, Priebus, McDaniel, Mccarthy, Haley, Wray, etc.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12870 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 2:58 pm to
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But the other guy said that the MAGA group is a collective and to the left of conservatives.


Populists are to the left of conservatives
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:01 pm to
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I have no problem being condescending to
My guess is that you have no problem being that way toward anyone that disagrees with you. Which is very lib of you.

The establishment repubs want the EXACT same thing that the democrats want, they (the establishment) just wants to complain about it. They nor the dems want to do anything good for the American Citizen.

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Criticizing Trump on this board
I find it very difficult to believe that this is the ONLY place where you do YOU....
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8160 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:01 pm to
Can't be worse than McRomney. The question is why did it take them this long, 9 months out from the biggest election of our lifetime, to get better leadership? The GOP has an uncanny knack for slamming the barn door shut and making a grand show of it when the horse is 100 yards down the road.
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Populists are to the left of conservatives

Evidence please, or STFU
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12870 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Evidence please, or STFU



You need evidence that populists are to the left of conservatives?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
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Which is why identity politics has been reserved for the left.

Until 2016.
What is your point?
Posted by RollTide71
Member since Dec 2023
1764 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:05 pm to
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You need evidence that populists are to the left of conservatives?
Apparently you don't have any then. Time to STFU.
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