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Mexican people (in Mexico) believe they will pay for wall
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:51 pm
It's a long article but here are some highlights:
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TIJUANA, Mexico— There seems to be little consensus in the raging binational debate over the issue of who will pay for the “big, beautiful border wall” that incoming President Donald Trump has promised the American people.
After months of insisting that “Mexico will pay for the wall”—a claim that three living Mexican presidents have resoundingly and repeatedly discredited—Trump now says that the United States will likely front the construction cost, which Mexico will later “reimburse.” That is, pending approval from Congress.
Speaking to Mexicans south of the border in Tijuana this week, it is clear that most are not buying Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto’s assertion on Wednesday that “Mexico—of course—will not pay” for the wall.
...every Mexican I spoke to inevitably offered the same response when asked, “Who will pay for ‘The Wall’?”
“Mexico,” more than a dozen people said, one after another. Indeed, not one believed in Mexico’s ability to stand behind its government’s reiterated promise.
“If the United States says Mexico is going to pay for the wall, then Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Period,” said 38-year-old Terán Palomares, who manages a seafood restaurant overlooking the border fence in Tijuana.
“Mexico is terrified of the U.S. and its power, and even more worried about any economic repercussions that could come from refusing to pay. Even if the final cost is disguised in some way—as an increase in foreign debt, or something—and isn’t just a lump sum from the Mexican government, Mexico will pay for it,”
On the streets of Tijuana, a local police officer stepped in to offer his opinion.
“Just watch. We’ll fold first,” the cop said, referencing the poker play that often follows a failed bluff.
“Mexico, to avoid problems with its neighbor, will definitely pay for the wall,” said Miguel Angél Martínez, who patrols the beach area where the border fence begins, extending into the Pacific at its westernmost point. “I have zero doubt about that.We aren’t about to go to war over this, not even a trade war,” the officer added matter-of-factly. “Before we know it we’ll be paying for the wall, in one way or another.”
The lack of confidence in Mexico’s ability to assert its sovereignty and govern in the country’s best interest—following trying years of political corruption scandals, international scorn over forced disappearances and extrajudicial killings, and a plummeting currency value, which hit a new historic low against the dollar on Wednesday following Trump’s news conference—has left many feeling defeated and thoroughly disgruntled with the country’s political leaders.
“Even if we disagree with everything Trump says, at least he is being honest, unlike our president,” said Palomares, the restaurant manager. “Even if he turns out to be like a Hitler, Trump is—at least as far as we know—not yet a liar.”
Meet The Mexicans Who Think Mexico Will Pay For ‘The Wall’
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:56 pm to Pecker
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“If the United States says Mexico is going to pay for the wall, then Mexico is going to pay for the wall. Period,” said 38-year-old Terán Palomares
Terán fricking gets it
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:57 pm to Pecker
We love the Mexican people don't we folks!
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:58 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I can't help but lol at people on the left acting as if Mexico is some world power that can tell us "no" in any meaningful way. What world are they living in where the US can't force its hand if it comes to that?
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:59 pm to texag7
All of this winning is exhausting. Please stop the onslaught of winning for Christs sake!
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:03 pm to Pecker
How do people not understand yet that taxing remittances will quite easily pay for the wall and then some?
Over $26 billion a year, and rising, gets wire transferred from the US to Mexico each year. Just a 10% tax alone on this would raise over $2 billion a year.
There's another $47 billion that gets wire transferred to the rest of central and South America combined.
A 10% tax on all remittances to central and South America would get us at least $6 billion a year in revenue. We'd have a $20 billion wall paid for with ease in under 4 years.
Over $26 billion a year, and rising, gets wire transferred from the US to Mexico each year. Just a 10% tax alone on this would raise over $2 billion a year.
There's another $47 billion that gets wire transferred to the rest of central and South America combined.
A 10% tax on all remittances to central and South America would get us at least $6 billion a year in revenue. We'd have a $20 billion wall paid for with ease in under 4 years.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:07 pm to texag7
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We love the Mexican people don't we folks!
I like dem latina chicas, like any red-blooded American male
ETA: I mean, my blood is maroon, of course, but you get the analogy
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:08 pm to Pecker
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Even if we disagree with everything Trump says, at least he is being honest, unlike our president,” said Palomares, the restaurant manager. “Even if he turns out to be like a Hitler, Trump is—at least as far as we know—not yet a liar.”
The liberals talking point btfo
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:10 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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my blood is maroon,
Low oxygen level?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:14 pm to TidenUP
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:15 pm to BeefDawg
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A 10% tax on all remittances to central and South America would get us at least $6 billion a year in revenue. We'd have a $20 billion wall paid for with ease in under 4 years
I think 10% is excessive. That's enough for people to find alternative methods to transfer funds.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:27 pm to Pecker
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After months of insisting that “Mexico will pay for the wall”
100%. I'm not even worried about it.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:30 pm to northshorebamaman
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I think 10% is excessive. That's enough for people to find alternative methods to transfer funds.
Like what?
Can't just mail cash. Post office will throw up huge red flags.
Can't do bank checks without dealing with currency exchange rules. More red flags.
Illegals can't really traverse border crossings.
Dogs are trained to sniff out cash. They'll bust mules trying to sneak money back down and confiscate a ton.
All the bases are already covered because of drug trafficking enforcement. Wire transfers are really the only legal and reliable method.
If they start using something like Bitcoin, then Congress will just add it to the remittance category and tax Bitcoin transactions that initiate in the US and try to sell or remit too.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:32 pm to BeefDawg
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If they start using something like Bitcoin, then Congress will just add it to the remittance category and tax Bitcoin transactions that initiate in the US and try to sell or remit too.
This would be impossible to enforce and is one reason why people should invest in Bitcoin. The US immigration policy and the falling Peso will push some Mexicans to it
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:34 pm to BeefDawg
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Over $26 billion a year, and rising, gets wire transferred from the US to Mexico each year. Just a 10% tax alone on this would raise over $2 billion a year.
There's another $47 billion that gets wire transferred to the rest of central and South America combined.
Interesting numbers $73 billion a year in wire transfers south.
It would take 14.6 million people sending 5k a year back south to reach those numbers.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:39 pm to Loserman
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Interesting numbers $73 billion a year in wire transfers south.
It would take 14.6 million people sending 5k a year back south to reach those numbers.
WSJ - Remittances to Latin America, Caribbean Hit $68.3 Billion in 2015
Posted on 1/16/17 at 7:46 pm to Pecker
It's amazing with all this country's resources that Mexico's people still understand business better than a huge percentage of our liberal idiot, college educated, population.
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