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re: Mexican border jumpers say they'll climb over whatever Trump builds
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:03 pm to Dale51
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:03 pm to Dale51
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You're desperate. You have no answer...yet you reeeally believe in your position. That seems oddly "true believerish".
Are you claiming that a section of wall is more difficult to get over than a continuous wall??? Why would that be? It makes no sense.
But maybe I'm not understanding the concept of breaching a wall like that? What do you have in mind? Can you share it?
Walls help, they're not a cure-all. Understand?
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:03 pm to northshorebamaman
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We used to live at the same place right on the border in AZ.
How awful
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:06 pm to Usafgiles
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It's called a tunnel, something they do very well down in Mexico.
How will that work in patrolled areas? Actually..if i remember correctly, anti tunneling was part of the design.
I understand your confusion. You're applying old methods to a new metric where they won't work.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:07 pm to Vacherie Saint
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The wall is also being designed to withstand ladders, torches, and other forms of demolition and digging equipment.
I'm sure the cost of building and patrolling a wall that can't be scaled, burned, or demolished that is over a thousand miles long will be palatable to the American people.
Especially when the problem is solving itself without such ridiculous bullshite

Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:08 pm to Powerman
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The people in prison don't have access to materials to help them climb the wall.
Thats nice. What do these "materials" consist of?
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:08 pm to Dale51
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You're applying old methods to a new metric where they won't work.
Says the guy that thinks a fricking wall will keep illegals out of the country.
You can't make this up
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:09 pm to Dale51
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Thats nice. What do these "materials" consist of?
Literally anything that you can buy with currency
Including plane tickets
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:09 pm to Powerman
Here is what a lot of people don't get: The border right now is hard as frick to patrol and guard. There isn't a road that runs along it's entirety. The real border is covered by miles of scrub brush and desert.
If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.
It also makes it possible to use Ground penetrating radar to locate tunnels and shite.
You find a tunnel, you drill into it and fill it with concrete,or cobras,or nerve gas,whatever.
If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.
It also makes it possible to use Ground penetrating radar to locate tunnels and shite.
You find a tunnel, you drill into it and fill it with concrete,or cobras,or nerve gas,whatever.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:10 pm to Powerman
I'm not saying those stats are untrue, but I'm skeptical given how the Obama administration did some funky shite to DHS policy during his time.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:10 pm to auggie
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If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.
So why don't we just build a road and not a wall?
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:11 pm to Powerman
Lol, the construction economy (hell the economy in general) took a massive shite in 2007. That's the sole motivation for illegal migrants. And even still, if you look at that graph and see a problem fixing itself, then I suggest you purchase some real estate in Laredo while prices are still in the toilet.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:11 pm to Scoop
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I’ll give you a 20 year old athletic guy, a 45 year old guy with a beer gut, a 64 year old grandma, a 4 year old girl, an 11 year old girl, three cases of water and a couple of duffel bags of granola bars and beef jerky. With a month of preparation, could you get all of that over a sheer wall that is 30 feet high in total darkness efficiently and with no one getting hurt?
Exactly..but in the real world many of the criminal aliens are already exhausted by the time they reach the border. Some die before they get there.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:11 pm to TideSaint
A wall is a tangible asset, unlike Obama's bookmobile with no books...
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:13 pm to auggie
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If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.
Yeah, a couple roads won't help BP catch a significant amount of illegals. Illegals generally don't stick to roads.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:13 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Lol, the construction economy (hell the economy in general) took a massive shite in 2007. That's the sole motivation for illegal migrants.
So the construction economy is the sole reason for illegal migrants and our plan is to fix this with a massive construction undertaking?
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:14 pm to Usafgiles
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no, but we could probably get under it.
Thats a good excuse..but that has its failures also.
Unless there are many, many undetected tunnels along the border, all the massive numbers of criminal aliens would have to congregate in one spot and wait their turn to fit in...single file into the small tunnel.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:15 pm to northshorebamaman
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I'm not saying it won't help, I'm just saying a wall itself isn't a bulletproof deterrent.
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Careful. I made this statement once and the nuance was too difficult for the resident tards. I got five pages of people responding as if I called the wall useless.
Actually the claim is a strawman fallacy.
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:15 pm to Powerman
That's a completely meaningless and obtuse response.
And stop upvoting yourself.
And stop upvoting yourself.
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