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re: Mexican border jumpers say they'll climb over whatever Trump builds

Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:03 pm to
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You're desperate. You have no answer...yet you reeeally believe in your position. That seems oddly "true believerish".
Are you claiming that a section of wall is more difficult to get over than a continuous wall??? Why would that be? It makes no sense.
But maybe I'm not understanding the concept of breaching a wall like that? What do you have in mind? Can you share it?

Walls help, they're not a cure-all. Understand?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93807 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:03 pm to
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We used to live at the same place right on the border in AZ.


How awful
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37577 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:05 pm to
Comes with the job.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:06 pm to
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It's called a tunnel, something they do very well down in Mexico.


How will that work in patrolled areas? Actually..if i remember correctly, anti tunneling was part of the design.

I understand your confusion. You're applying old methods to a new metric where they won't work.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:07 pm to
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The wall is also being designed to withstand ladders, torches, and other forms of demolition and digging equipment.

I'm sure the cost of building and patrolling a wall that can't be scaled, burned, or demolished that is over a thousand miles long will be palatable to the American people.

Especially when the problem is solving itself without such ridiculous bullshite

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:08 pm to
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The people in prison don't have access to materials to help them climb the wall.

Thats nice. What do these "materials" consist of?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:08 pm to
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You're applying old methods to a new metric where they won't work.



Says the guy that thinks a fricking wall will keep illegals out of the country.

You can't make this up
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:09 pm to
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Thats nice. What do these "materials" consist of?


Literally anything that you can buy with currency

Including plane tickets
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30965 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:09 pm to
Here is what a lot of people don't get: The border right now is hard as frick to patrol and guard. There isn't a road that runs along it's entirety. The real border is covered by miles of scrub brush and desert.

If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.
It also makes it possible to use Ground penetrating radar to locate tunnels and shite.
You find a tunnel, you drill into it and fill it with concrete,or cobras,or nerve gas,whatever.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:10 pm to
I'm not saying those stats are untrue, but I'm skeptical given how the Obama administration did some funky shite to DHS policy during his time.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:10 pm to
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If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.

So why don't we just build a road and not a wall?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:11 pm to
Lol, the construction economy (hell the economy in general) took a massive shite in 2007. That's the sole motivation for illegal migrants. And even still, if you look at that graph and see a problem fixing itself, then I suggest you purchase some real estate in Laredo while prices are still in the toilet.
This post was edited on 3/13/18 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:11 pm to
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I’ll give you a 20 year old athletic guy, a 45 year old guy with a beer gut, a 64 year old grandma, a 4 year old girl, an 11 year old girl, three cases of water and a couple of duffel bags of granola bars and beef jerky. With a month of preparation, could you get all of that over a sheer wall that is 30 feet high in total darkness efficiently and with no one getting hurt?


Exactly..but in the real world many of the criminal aliens are already exhausted by the time they reach the border. Some die before they get there.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:11 pm to
A wall is a tangible asset, unlike Obama's bookmobile with no books...
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138151 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

If you build a wall you have to build a road first,because you will have to bring in people,materials and machinery.
Once the road is built,patrolling becomes infinitely easier and more effective.

Yeah, a couple roads won't help BP catch a significant amount of illegals. Illegals generally don't stick to roads.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170709 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:13 pm to
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Lol, the construction economy (hell the economy in general) took a massive shite in 2007. That's the sole motivation for illegal migrants.

So the construction economy is the sole reason for illegal migrants and our plan is to fix this with a massive construction undertaking?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:14 pm to
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no, but we could probably get under it.

Thats a good excuse..but that has its failures also.
Unless there are many, many undetected tunnels along the border, all the massive numbers of criminal aliens would have to congregate in one spot and wait their turn to fit in...single file into the small tunnel.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:15 pm to
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I'm not saying it won't help, I'm just saying a wall itself isn't a bulletproof deterrent.

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Careful. I made this statement once and the nuance was too difficult for the resident tards. I got five pages of people responding as if I called the wall useless.


Actually the claim is a strawman fallacy.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 6:15 pm to
That's a completely meaningless and obtuse response.

And stop upvoting yourself.
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