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re: Mayor Pete: “Jesus was born a refugee”
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:18 pm to HempHead
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:18 pm to HempHead
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but no specific prohibition against homosexuality in that passage.
Jesus was a Jew, living in a Jewish community. It's a given that homosexuality was forbidden. Still all sort of besides the point of the Gospel.
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Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:19 pm to HempHead
Wrong.
Jesus is referring them to scripture. The passage begins, "Have you not read..."
He is offering an admonishment against homosexuality by referring them to Genesis.
You need to read the Gospels again, if you missed the context.
Jesus is referring them to scripture. The passage begins, "Have you not read..."
He is offering an admonishment against homosexuality by referring them to Genesis.
You need to read the Gospels again, if you missed the context.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:20 pm to McLemore
I agree. NyNola just asked if Jesus really said that. The only obvious prohibitions against homosexuality were Pauline, and more than likely that was because of Gentile proselytization where communities may not have had as strict a view on sodomy as the Hebrews.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:21 pm to HempHead
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The only obvious prohibitions against homosexuality were Pauline
No they were not...
I gave you a very specific verse that is attributed to Jesus condemning sexual immorality... He said it, it is your problem if you don't like it...
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:22 pm to 2geaux
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Joseph and Mary were citizens sent by their government to Bethlehem, their ancestral home, to take part in the census. That proves their citizenship!
I have seen no source to indicate that any of them were Roman Citizens.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:22 pm to The Maj
I think we are all being too antagonistic for being in agreement in substance. 
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:23 pm to AggieHank86
Did he leave the middle east?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:25 pm to HempHead
You are simply incorrect.
I have several more NT passages to point you, but the effect of each verse is lost if you don't get the context as well as the OT cross references.
Please go pick up a red letter edition Bible, if it will help you.
You need to read the New Testament in it's entirety. Also, when the Lord is speaking, he FREQUENTLY refers to Old Testament passages (like a rabbinical scholar). You need to then go read the Old Testament.
A reference Bible will help you identify the easiest way to do this. Do you have a Bible study at your Church?
I have several more NT passages to point you, but the effect of each verse is lost if you don't get the context as well as the OT cross references.
Please go pick up a red letter edition Bible, if it will help you.
You need to read the New Testament in it's entirety. Also, when the Lord is speaking, he FREQUENTLY refers to Old Testament passages (like a rabbinical scholar). You need to then go read the Old Testament.
A reference Bible will help you identify the easiest way to do this. Do you have a Bible study at your Church?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:28 pm to Apollyon
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Do you have a Bible study at your Church?
No. We have Orthros and the Divine Liturgy. My priest is available for any questions I have, though.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:29 pm to HempHead
That's a shame.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:30 pm to HempHead
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for being in agreement in substance
Not really... Jesus did not prohibit beastiality according to your view and interpretation but he did when he said "sexual immorality" defiles us... Defiles is mentioned again in the Bible as making us unclean and keeps us from God and in cases even sets us outside of worship...
So, adultery, homosexuality, beastiality, and a whole host of other acts are covered by "sexual immorality"...
Sin is sin...
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:34 pm to HempHead
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No. We have Orthros and the Divine Liturgy. My priest is available for any questions I have, though.
What do you think she’ll say about it?
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:35 pm to Flats
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What do you think she’ll say about it?
Women are not allowed ordination in the Orthodox Church.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:43 pm to HempHead
That was said somewhat in jest, but you seem intent on denying something that’s pretty plain to most people with even a casual knowledge of the Bible, whether they’re believers or not. The idea that gay sex wouldn’t be included under the blanket term of “sexual immorality” (pornea in the Greek) for Jews in the first century just isn’t a serious one.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:51 pm to Flats
Similarly, it is ridiculous to dismiss the Letters of the Apostle Paul as if they are not direct teachings of the Holy Ghost.
Revelation 2:7
Revelation 2:7
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:55 pm to Apollyon
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it is ridiculous to dismiss the Letters of the Apostle Paul
I do not do this whatsoever.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:57 pm to HempHead
Stating that Christ's proscription against homosexuality is purely a figment of St. Paul's writing, and similarly dismissing Paul's re-iteration of Christ's teachings is what you did.
It is absolutely incorrect.
It is absolutely incorrect.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:58 pm to AggieHank86
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Mayor Pete: “Jesus was born a refugee”
He probably read in Psalm 91 where it says "The Lord is my refuge", thought it said 'refugee', and decided to roll with it.
This post was edited on 12/30/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 12/30/19 at 3:59 pm to Apollyon
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Stating that Christ's proscription against homosexuality is purely a figment of St. Paul's writing, and similarly dismissing Paul's re-iteration of Christ's teachings is what you did.
That is not what I did at all. If you want to claim as much, all power to you. Rest assured that we are in agreement in almost all things that matter.
Posted on 12/30/19 at 4:01 pm to Boatshoes
quote:They were not. Judea was not a Roman province, but rather a client state with its own king.quote:I have seen no source to indicate that any of them were Roman Citizens.
Joseph and Mary were citizens sent by their government to Bethlehem, their ancestral home, to take part in the census. That proves their citizenship!
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