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re: Marine Corps Times - First female infantry Marines joining battalion on Thursday

Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:47 am to
Posted by Andrew Rowan
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:47 am to
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How is there disciplinary and readiness issues, when a woman takes your appendix out or fixes your teeth?


Already been addressed in this thread several times.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:49 am to
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I see no reason why they should be performed by a woman though because men are just as capable of performing them and don't bring along the baggage that women do.


You seem to be saying that women should have their employment rights curtailed. That legislation should bar them from the Military.

-That is - never going to happen and to recruit men to do those jobs would probably raise the cost of the force significantly, if even enough men are available at all.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:51 am to
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You seem to be saying that women should have their employment rights curtailed. That legislation should bar them from the Military.
Exactly
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-That is - never going to happen and to recruit men to do those jobs would probably raise the cost of the force significantly, if even enough men are available at all.

Explain to me how it would raise the cost
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:52 am to
Good post. Maybe he will stfu now with his nonsense.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:53 am to
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Explain to me how it would raise the cost

Basic common sense, try to buy some for a thousand, Alex.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:56 am to
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Basic common sense, try to buy some for a thousand, Alex.
Basic common sense, even non-basic common sense, says women cost more. But I'll patiently wait for you to provide some links or data or even an argument to the contrary.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:06 am to
It would not cost more for a woman v. a man to go through boot camp. Any cost difference would be peanuts compared to the basic common sense of a personnel shortage if women are banned from the military.

Let's use living in GTMO as an example. The hospital personnel shortage alone from banning women would be very noticeable to the entire military family and JTF. A man could be pulled from a more combat role/critical billet to be a corpsman in the hospital serving families; versus front line duty.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 11:08 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:08 am to
If you reduce the number of possible candidates, you increase the cost of each candidate who enlists.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:14 am to
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It would not cost more for a woman v. a man to go through boot camp.
Of course it does. That doesn't get into the plus 10% of women who have unplanned pregnancies that cost the taxpayer millions.

We have 300 million people in this country, about half are male. Figure at least half of those are military aged males and probably more. There is no personal shortage.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:19 am to
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If you reduce the number of possible candidates, you increase the cost of each candidate who enlists.

No. it just means you stop overpaying for service members to do the same jobs that males do.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162985 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:24 am to
You are getting into a whole other ballgame of rightious discussion of costs; only if we debate Obama's tranny rights and tranny changeover surgeries. That is a whole different subject and ballgame. The expense of changing heads and signs on all bases and ships, and reformatting racks and living spaces- to appeal to these special snowflakes...needs to end immediately.

As far as pregnancies cost, that is BS. Deliveries and prenatal care, abortions, are all done for free at any military hospital. There are rules set in place regarding a woman not being pregnant during bootcamp. I disagree with your premise overall; of banning women from the military. Women should NOT serve in combat roles. Yet, there is a whole other topic of discussion; because some women are superbly intelligent fighter pilots. If they get shot down they are tought the same survival skills as men. I am not against this as much as front line head to head fox-hole combat.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162985 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:26 am to
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No. it just means you stop overpaying for service members to do the same jobs that males do.

Okay this will end my discussion with you on this subject. Whiskey pegged you correctly out the gate.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:27 am to
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There are rules set in place regarding a woman not being pregnant during bootcamp.
There are rules against them getting pregnant on deployment but it still happens. There are rules against fraternization but it still happens. There are even rules against rape and sexual harassment believe it or not but it still happens.
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As far as pregnancies cost, that is BS. Deliveries and prenatal care, abortions, are all done for free at any military hospital.
Free

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because some women are superbly intelligent fighter pilots.
Men aren't?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 11:29 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:30 am to
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Andrew Rowan

I'm pretty sure I know who you is
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:35 am to
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It's true, but stay away from Marine Corps Times, Army Times, Military Times as a legit source


Aren't they Gannett? That would explain a lot.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:52 am to
I destroyed this thread
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:53 am to
Somebody has to cook and clean for these poor bastards.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162985 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:01 pm to
I think I know who you are too. You did frick-up this thread you dumbassed jarhead.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:02 pm to
Well that was out of nowhere
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162985 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:05 pm to
Imagine how shocked I was when I was accused bunghole.
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