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re: Marine Corps Times - First female infantry Marines joining battalion on Thursday

Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:29 am to
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:29 am to
I served with quite a few female soldiers and female officers in the army. I never met a female officer I feel confident following in the combat, and I never met a female soldier who belong to or I could hack it in an infantry Battalion.

In contrast, all of the best supply sergeant's that I met were women. Big black sassy women. I would absolutely take one of them as my supply sergeant, or as the chief NCO for logistics for the army. In my experience, men were terrible supply sergeant's almost as a rule.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:30 am to
Go ahead start the debate. Whatcha want to discuss or debate? Sometimes a picture says a thousand words. I posted the Marine chicas because it looks like they have settled in; and the genie can't be put put back in the bottle.

So what's your point other than following Whiskey around like a punkass?

Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:35 am to
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Go ahead start the debate. Whatcha want to discuss or debate?


Pretty sure I have. I've posted links to thousands of disciplinary issues caused by the presence of women. I've posted links showing that 11% of women scheduled to deploy had unplanned pregnancies preventing their deployments. Women bring nothing to the table that a man doesn't but they do bring a host of other issues that otherwise wouldn't be present.


I could go into efficiency and the waste of taxpayer dollars too if you'd like.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:49 am to
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Pretty sure I have. I've posted links to thousands of disciplinary issues caused by the presence of women. I've posted links showing that 11% of women scheduled to deploy had unplanned pregnancies preventing their deployments. Women bring nothing to the table that a man doesn't but they do bring a host of other issues that otherwise wouldn't be present.


I could go into efficiency and the waste of taxpayer dollars too if you'd like.


I witnessed this first hand through many CONUS towns and overseas; being the dependent- very angered that females took the shore duty billets while my spouse had to deploy. I knew of at least three at the time that got pregnant (in some cases by the married Nav and Marines) just to get the coveted shore duty billets. There was one United States Ship permanently moored to the pier @ NOB Norf full of females getting ship duty on their records; yet it was shore duty. And they advanced in rank to CPO quite easily over the males-- pulling this trick. Leaving me to raise our children basically alone- as chief bottle washer.

I was very good friends with AD females that worked under my husband and they would get migraines every other week and need to go sleep-out their narc shot for 2 days. And they were overseas and not combat duty. I think there is a role for females in the military just not combat and in most cases- sometimes not at all.

So I would say I agree with you overall. I have not read this entire thread.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:55 am to
Glad I could change your mind
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:57 am to
You didn't change my mind. That has always been my position on this subject. Is there something wrong with you?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:59 am to
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You didn't change my mind. That has always been my position on this subject. Is there something wrong with you?


LOL I can see why they say we sound alike.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 9:59 am to
Get a room you two
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:15 am to
I have a good sense of humor and can be crazy, so when I tell you this it's real bad... But you are one weird dude. Why in the frick of fricks did you even engage with convo with Whiskey or I when we agree with your overall points?

And then... tell us to get a room, because we are not cognitively impaired like yourself?

Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:16 am to
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Why in the frick of fricks did you even engage with convo with Whiskey or I when we agree with your overall points?

My overall point is that women should be barred from military service.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147591 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:28 am to
Banning women from any military service is ridiculous. Front line-combat duty, yes. If you have a problem with a female doc giving you a prostate exam because you may get a woody-okay understandable- then go to a male doc. If you have a problem with a female JAG officer type getting your affairs legally in order, or fixing your teeth problems, or performing surgery, or about anything else in a non-combat role- you are a dumbass woman hating creep.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 10:30 am
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:29 am to
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Banning women from any military service is ridiculous.
Why?
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If you have a problem with a female doc giving you a prostate exam because you may get a woody-okay understandable- then go to a male doc. If you have a problem with a female JAG officer type getting your affairs legally in order, or fixing your teeth problems, or performing surgery, or about anything else in a non-combat role- you are a dumbass women hating creep.
I don't have a problem with any of that. I also fail to see how it's relevant to this debate.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:31 am to
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If you have a problem with a female JAG officer type getting your affairs legally in order, or fixing your teeth problems, or performing surgery, or about anything else in a non-combat role- you are a dumbass women hating creep.

I don't have a problem with any of that. I also fail to see how it's relevant to this debate.


You sound impaired.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:33 am to
So when not posting pictures of women in uniform your replies are limited to 3 words?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147591 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:36 am to
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I don't have a problem with any of that. I also fail to see how it's relevant to this debate.

There is something wrong with you, or you are trolling.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:37 am to
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So when not posting pictures of women in uniform your replies are limited to 3 words?


Not often.
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:40 am to
My point is that whether or not they're capable of doing the job is irrelevant. They're presence causes disciplinary and readiness issues-that's not debatable. Leadership is hard enough without throwing women into the mix and making it even harder. They bring nothing to the table that a man doesn't but cost more to train and house and take care of medically.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147591 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:42 am to
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So when not posting pictures of women in uniform your replies are limited to 3 words?

Listen Forrest. You do realize I was not speaking about a woman putting your legal affairs in order, a dentist, or surgeon as a civilian, correct? As an Active duty female serving in these facets in a non combat role. Yet, you say ban women from the military yet you have no problem with these roles. I was speaking to you as if, you were active duty military. Get it?
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
154 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:46 am to
I get it. I have no real problem saying that women are capable of those roles. I also have no problem personally having those services performed for me by a woman. I see no reason why they should be performed by a woman though because men are just as capable of performing them and don't bring along the baggage that women do.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147591 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 10:46 am to
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My point is that whether or not they're capable of doing the job is irrelevant. They're presence causes disciplinary and readiness issues-that's not debatable. Leadership is hard enough without throwing women into the mix and making it even harder. They bring nothing to the table that a man doesn't but cost more to train and house and take care of medically.

How is there disciplinary and readiness issues, when a woman takes your appendix out or fixes your teeth? Either you have no clue what it is like to be a lifer in the military or you are Forrest.
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