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Marine Corps lowers standards on test so women can pass
Posted on 2/17/18 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 2/17/18 at 6:46 pm
With no notice and little formal explanation, the Marine Corps altered one of its notoriously grueling rites of passage late last year, changing the combat endurance test on the first day of its Infantry Officer Course from a pass/fail requirement to an unscored exercise.
Officials with Marine Corps Training and Education Command confirmed to Military.com on Friday that Commandant Gen. Robert Neller had made a decision in November to transform the test from a high-stakes hurdle to an assessment from which students can drop without risking their place in the course.
While officials said the test has had a historically low attrition rate since it was made a passing requirement in 2012, the change stands to have significant implications for women attempting the course. Of the more than 30 female officers who have attempted IOC, most have dropped during the combat endurance test on the first day.
Last September, a female second lieutenant made history when she became the first woman to pass the course and receive the 0302 military occupational specialty. The officer, who has not been publicly identified, passed the entirety of the course, including the CET, an official told Military.com.
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Officials with Marine Corps Training and Education Command confirmed to Military.com on Friday that Commandant Gen. Robert Neller had made a decision in November to transform the test from a high-stakes hurdle to an assessment from which students can drop without risking their place in the course.
While officials said the test has had a historically low attrition rate since it was made a passing requirement in 2012, the change stands to have significant implications for women attempting the course. Of the more than 30 female officers who have attempted IOC, most have dropped during the combat endurance test on the first day.
Last September, a female second lieutenant made history when she became the first woman to pass the course and receive the 0302 military occupational specialty. The officer, who has not been publicly identified, passed the entirety of the course, including the CET, an official told Military.com.
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Posted on 2/17/18 at 6:52 pm to bcoop199
yeah
that change was gonna happen the second they allowed females into ca
that change was gonna happen the second they allowed females into ca
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:02 pm to canteen
Army denies it, but I believe they rigged Ranger School to get those females through a few years ago.
Should be interesting in a few years when some former RI's separate / retire and decide to unload the truth.
Should be interesting in a few years when some former RI's separate / retire and decide to unload the truth.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:03 pm to bcoop199
Don't like. Marines are Devil Dogs. Their grueling, physical, endurance building training is what makes them the badasses they are. Why change it now?
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:04 pm to bcoop199
God fricking damnit. I’m glad I only have a year left.
All these politicians and upper brass in the military are gonna have blood on their hands the next major engagement we get in. They are effectively screwing the military killing power by allowing both mentally and physically weaker people into the frontline.
frick our politicians and frick the brass, they’re weak pussies.
Eta: This is not me being surprised or anything, I knew this would happen. That doesn’t change the fact that this is a terrible decision by Robert Neller. He’s supposed to be in charge of the military might of the Marine Corps and efficiency of it. He just failed to do his job. As has Mattis on this matter.
All these politicians and upper brass in the military are gonna have blood on their hands the next major engagement we get in. They are effectively screwing the military killing power by allowing both mentally and physically weaker people into the frontline.
frick our politicians and frick the brass, they’re weak pussies.
Eta: This is not me being surprised or anything, I knew this would happen. That doesn’t change the fact that this is a terrible decision by Robert Neller. He’s supposed to be in charge of the military might of the Marine Corps and efficiency of it. He just failed to do his job. As has Mattis on this matter.
This post was edited on 2/17/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:05 pm to bcoop199
Are they desperate for more Marines?
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:08 pm to starsandstripes
Nothing to deny. Those females had more opportunities than normally allowed
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:14 pm to bcoop199
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With no notice and little formal explanation,
Believe me brother, I noticed along with other Marines.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:16 pm to bcoop199
But, but, but... I thought men and women were 100% the same?
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:19 pm to bcoop199
Well, I'm ready for the overreactions by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Well, I'm ready for the overreactions by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
I think we’ve established that this is a point of ignorance for you.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:21 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Would you share your regurgitated talking points for the unwashed masses?
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:23 pm to Smart Post
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Smart Post
Sure, but first, you tell everyone whose alter you are.
Deal?
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:24 pm to Azkiger
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Why change it now?
To perpetuate the BS lie that men and women are the same. Haven't you heard diversity is important no matter how it's achieved. If I were a Marine I sure as hell wouldn't want the person next to me...male or female to put my life in danger because they're substandard.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:25 pm to bcoop199
I wonder if this is an Obama holdover and if he did it with Mattis' knowledge.
Posted on 2/17/18 at 7:26 pm to Lima Whiskey
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I think we’ve established that this is a point of ignorance for you.
Who is we and which point?
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