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re: Map of the 12 Tribes of Israel
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:11 am to jeffsdad
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:11 am to jeffsdad
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You serious? Noah-Ham-Canaan/ Noah-Shem-Abraham&Sarah Abraham from Shem, Canaan from Ham.
Fictive history of people who didn’t exist.
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Unless you are saying people living in the area and not genetically.
The ancient Israelites were Canaanites and shared the same gods, culture, language, alphabet, and genetics. Pick up a real book and learn all about it.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:16 am to oogabooga68
quote:BWAAA HA HAAA HA HA
Stop trying to play smartest person in the room , AgtoniusHank....
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:17 am to jeffsdad
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jeffsdad
You’re another lunatic.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:25 am to Mo Jeaux
True , I’m a conservative Christian
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:26 am to Blutarsky
God declared the land to be Israels. The only country in the world in which God set the borders.
Even if someone doesn't believe that, that's fine. Doesn't change anything. Let's say Israel took it, it's still theirs. Countries and nations have changed throughout history by people conquering other people and taking the land.
Cry about injustice all you want, life isn't fair and the Palestinians are unable to drive Israel out. Period.
The end.
Even if someone doesn't believe that, that's fine. Doesn't change anything. Let's say Israel took it, it's still theirs. Countries and nations have changed throughout history by people conquering other people and taking the land.
Cry about injustice all you want, life isn't fair and the Palestinians are unable to drive Israel out. Period.
The end.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 10:34 am to lake chuck fan
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God declared the land to be Israels. The only country in the world in which God set the borders.
Why did God promise Abraham and Jacob and Moses and so on that it would be their land forever? Seems like “God” broke his promise, no?
Take Israel - they had some version of a kingdom from about 1100-700BCE. Then about 100 years when Judas Maccabeus let a revolt against the Seleucids. Then almost the last 80 years or so. Let’s call it 500 years. Israel has been ruled by people claiming to be Israelites for 500 of the last 3100 years.
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Even if someone doesn't believe that, that's fine. Doesn't change anything. Let's say Israel took it, it's still theirs.
I agree with this.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 11:38 am to Ribbed
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But they would have left a remnant.
Agreed
Posted on 11/11/23 at 11:44 am to Squirrelmeister
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Seems like “God” broke his promise, no?
Just because you leave your house or are even forced out doesn't mean it doesn't belong to you. Forever is an end result, not the middle.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 12:14 pm to Blutarsky
Somebody told me that part of the conflict was the Holy City of Jerusalem. It’s unreal how many times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Koran about its significance in Islam as the Holy City and how important it is to the Islamic faith.
Posted on 11/11/23 at 12:20 pm to CDawson
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Somebody told me that part of the conflict was the Holy City of Jerusalem.
Always considered Muhammad to be the first New Ager. He cobbled together Christianity, Judaism, and Arab paganism with a love message. Then set out to murder or enslave everyone who disagreed.
This post was edited on 11/11/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:12 am to dchog
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I watched some videos of Orthodox Jews that were against the Israeli government treatment of the Palestinians.
Yes, and for theological reasons which I found interesting. Some of the orthodox believe the creation of Israel was wrong, because man was delivering what god had promised.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 6:49 am to Blutarsky
Somebody help me find Israel. I don't see it on here.
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:09 am to lake chuck fan
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God declared the land to be Israels. The only country in the world in which God set the borders.
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Posted on 11/12/23 at 7:11 am to jeffsdad
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True , I’m a conservative Christian
Nah. I grew up around conservative Christians. You’re full on with the wacky cuck version. It’s a weird fetish.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:06 am to lake chuck fan
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The only country in the world in which God set the borders.
Bible says God sets the bounds of all countries.
Posted on 11/12/23 at 8:57 am to lake chuck fan
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God declared the land to be Israels. The only country in the world in which God set the borders.
I bet you won’t believe that your book says the exact opposite of your comment if I just call you a dumbass, so I’ll post the inspired word of God for you here:
Deuteronomy 32:8-9, ESV
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8When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. 9But the LORD’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.
Also you’ll notice there are two gods mentioned here by name. El Elyon “god most high” and Yahweh “the LORD”. When the father god divided the nations and set their borders, he gave Israel to Yahweh to lord over those particular people. Yes the Israelites were polytheists.
Psalm 82 might be my favorite. It’s short, it complements Deut 32:8-9 very well, and it’s a great example of Israelite polytheism as it explicitly names El Elyon and Yahweh and also mentions the unnamed other gods multiple times.
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Rescue the Weak and Needy A Psalm of Asaph. 1God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: 2“How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Selah 3Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. 4Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” 5They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; 7nevertheless, like men you shall die, and fall like any prince.”a 8Arise, O God, judge the earth; for you shall inherit all the nations!
Posted on 11/12/23 at 9:04 am to Antoninus
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If the "Twelve Tribes" ever actually existed (which they did not),
What a buffoon
Thats like saying 12 Indian tribes never existed in N. America because they were displaced by conquering Europeans. Yet, here they still are.
Just because your warped ideology cant accept these histories, doesnt mean they arent accurate
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