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re: Man kills Convicted Child Molester with Moose Antler
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:55 am to SOSFAN
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:55 am to SOSFAN
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Prison is a punishment and your prison should be based on your crime
It should also act as deterrent.
A country club existence isnt a deterrent. Hank doesn't understand the basics of human behavior.
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The term “preferential treatment“ implies that I make this proposal for the benefit of the offender. I do not. It is for the benefit of the exchequer. Why do you keep using this misleading language? Can you not argue this issue on its merits?
Why are rapists who rape kids given preferential treatment over grown adult rapists?
I do not advocate for placing adult rapists in lower-security prisons, because they have a significantly-higher rate of attempted escape.
Are you really this dumb? Or are you suffering a cognitive decline associated with dementia?
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:02 am to AggieHank86
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The term “preferential treatment“ implies that it is being done for the benefit of the offender. It is not.
Why are pedos safer than rapists?
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Roger, in the previous thread I cited you to the hard data.
The term “preferential treatment“ implies that it is being done for the benefit of the offender. It is not.quote:
Why are pedos safer than rapists?
Bottom line … they are one of the lowest risk categories for attempted escape.
Who gives a frick why they do not?
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:05 am to AggieHank86
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Roger, in the previous thread I saw that due to the hard data.
Which is absolute bullshite and everyone here knows it.
You want pedos in minimum security for their own safety. They are no safer than the run of the mill rapist.
Rapists are all predators.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:06 am to AggieHank86
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explained in the FIRST thread in which we had this discussion, it is a matter of balancing the likelihood of attempted escape against cost. A cost-benefit analysis.
This is where you're making your mistake. While escape is a consideration punishment is even more so . A minimum security prison normally houses nonviolent offenders. A pedophile is a VIOLENT offender which is medium or maximum security.
Using your " escape" analogy a serial killer in a wheelchair should be in a minimum security prison.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
Again with the clairvoyance, Sheila?
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:09 am to SOSFAN
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This is where you're making your mistake.
Because he's biased toward child predators.
We should just make all prisons min security to save money!
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
That poster defends pedos and transmans all the time
Very strange person
Very strange person
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:10 am to TomShelby
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That poster defends pedos and transmans all the time
Very strange person
He's an autistic nerd who doesn't understand human behavior.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:11 am to AggieHank86
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You want pedos in minimum security for their own safety. They are no safer than the run of the mill rapist
Hank, you know Roger is correct about the above statement. You have previously posted in the past that child molesters run the risk of being hurt in maximum prisons. So the question is why do you care?
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:12 am to tigerfan 64
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If it had more than 6 points, it was a military grade, mega capacity assault antler too.
Nobody needs a moose antler for deer hunting.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:13 am to SOSFAN
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t. You have previously posted in the past that child molesters run the risk of being hurt in maximum prisons
Correct. He's dishonest here.
A rapist is a rapist, and a child rapist is the most reprehensible.
Evidently the punishments aren't severe enough.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:13 am to SOSFAN
quote:No mistake. Perhaps you and I simply have different ideas about the reason for incarceration.
This is where you're making your mistake.
I see two reasons. First, the protection of society from further offenses. To me, that is the primary purpose of prison. Second, there is the “punishment“ element. In my view. Deprivation of liberty is the punishment sanctioned by law. (Rehabilitation is also often offered as a third justification, but I candidly think that it is utter nonsense.)
In your mind, apparently, the punishment should also include the significant risk of a state-sponsored, extrajudicial killing by another prisoner. sorry, but that is not part of the judicially-determined sentence.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:17 am to AggieHank86
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Second, there is the “punishment“ element.
There is a third. Deterrent.
Min security is not a deterrent.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:18 am to SOSFAN
quote:Because an extrajudicial execution at the hands of other prisoners is not a punishment found in the statute books for the crime of which these folks were convicted.
You have previously posted in the past that child molesters run the risk of being hurt in maximum prisons. So the question is why do you care?
If the state knowingly (intentionally?) places a prisoner in the situation where that sort of result is a significant likelihood, and I see significant Constitutional problems.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:18 am to AggieHank86
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your mind, apparently, the punishment should also include the significant risk of a state-sponsored, extrajudicial killing by another prisoner. sorry, but that is not part of the judicially-determined sentence.
I never said that what I said is prisoners are housed based on the severity of their crime first and foremost. Minimum security is for non violent offenders. Child molestation is a violent crime, a crime against not only a child but humanity itself. Violent offenders should be housed together in medium and maximum security prisons to think otherwise is ludicrous or maybe just extremely naive to how a prison system works
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:19 am to AggieHank86
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Because an extrajudicial execution at the hands of other prisoners is not a punishment found in the statute books for the crime of which these folks were convicted.
Not a reason to give pedos special treatment.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:20 am to SOSFAN
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Minimum security is for non violent offenders.
Absolutely true.
Rape is a violent crime.
Posted on 3/12/23 at 9:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Whether the offender is placed in a high security prison or in a lower security prison, he has been deprived of his liberty. That is the punishment prescribed by law.
There is a third. Deterrent. Min security is not a deterrent.
You seem to be intent upon imposing penalties that lie outside the penal code. Yes, I have a problem with that… for this offense or any other.
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