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re: Man dead after refusing to show police ID
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:35 pm to Alahunter
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:35 pm to Alahunter
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eta- It's an unfortunate tragedy that was brought on by the actions of the wife.
so everytime a parent slaps their unruly daughter...a cop should be able to kill?
good god.
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There are consequences to actions.
Not for cops.
they can revoke your rights LINK
Keep going with your defense of your criminal brethren. The number of people tired of the jack booted thug tactics gets bigger by the day...and the more you and yours increase your criminal behavior to establish the dominance your small dick robbed you of, the more of the citizenry you will throw against you.
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Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:35 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Yes, right. The dead citizen always deserves the benefit of the doubt.
I don't think either side should get the benefit of the doubt.
I think you shouldn't form an opinion till you know the facts.
Is there a chance this cops were completely out of line. Yes a pretty good one.
Is there a chance this guy was completely out of line? yes
Did he deserve to die? no
Did he deserved to get maced? Maybe
Did he die form asphysciation or getting maces? Who knows.
All i know is in that video there aren't 5 cops kneeling on this guys chest.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Everyone I've ever known that had a run in with LE, and acted civily, went safely on their merry way. Hell, 2 buddies of mine broke down mud riding once. About 2 a.m., they're walking down the side of the road, with about 4 firearms each on them, as they didn't want to risk leaving them in the broken down vehicle. A state trooper passed, you can guess he apprehension he had, especially as he was AA and this was a very rural area, about 20 yrs ago. They were respectful, did everything asked of them, and when it was over, one of their dad's was contacted by the trooper and they went home with all their firearms.
Showing respect, and not acting like a damn animal isn't that hard to do, and gets you through life a lot easier.
Showing respect, and not acting like a damn animal isn't that hard to do, and gets you through life a lot easier.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:36 pm to SammyTiger
quote:That is literally the exact same excuse given by every cop who has ever appeared in the news.
refusal to show ID and becoming combative is what the cops told the lady.
"He became combative"
quote:No, how about hold the police to higher standards?
But whatever frick the police right?
The number of people injured or killed by police increases every year, despite the drop in the number of violent crimes committed in the US every year. Also, the numbers are likely higher than we know since police departments aren't mandated to release the number of people they wound or kill.
Something isn't right and we are just turning a blind eye to the problem.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:36 pm to SammyTiger
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SammyTiger
In agreement with you.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:37 pm to novabill
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The problem is not the death as bad as it is. Cops all too often abuse people and not much is said because no one is dead. Cops will always want to excuse another cop because he puts his life on the line, it is a tough job, they never know when they may kill someone and will need the code to protect them.
cops get sued all the time. You are ignorant if you don't think police department discourage poor conduct. It costs them big bucks, and even more when the guy dies.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:38 pm to CptBengal
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so everytime a parent slaps their unruly daughter...a cop should be able to kill?
infers they had an agenda to kill they guy.
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The number of people tired of the jack booted thug tactics gets bigger by the day...and the more you and yours increase your criminal behavior to establish the dominance your small dick robbed you of, the more of the citizenry you will throw against you.
There ain't but one group of folks judging in here.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:38 pm to SammyTiger
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We have no idea how this went down. everyone just want to blame the cops.
It sucks that this guy died, but we have no idea why this happened.
Lets say some 5 non cop dudes were the ones on top of this guy and the guy dies.
What position do the cops take towards the 5 non cop dudes? Any different than the view I am taking of the cops here?
You want to hold cops to a lower standard than we are held to. Why is that?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:39 pm to Alahunter
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and not acting like a damn animal isn't that hard to do, and gets you through life a lot easier
especially in a country where people aren't allowed to speak and protest. I'm sure being sedated works well in North Korea, sometimes.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:39 pm to Scruffy
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The number of people injured or killed by police increases every year
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drop in the number of violent crimes committed in the US every year
hmmm.... seems to be a connection...
maybe they're getting the right ones..This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:41 pm to Scruffy
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That is literally the exact same excuse given by every cop who has ever appeared in the news.
"He became combative"
Probably because most people who are calm and cooperative don't get beat up by cops, and don't get on the news.
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The number of people injured or killed by police increases every year, despite the drop in the number of violent crimes committed in the US every year. Also, the numbers are likely higher than we know since police departments aren't mandated to release the number of people they wound or kill.
1. police kill people for a variety of reasons and including them all in that number is misleading.
2. the number of violent crimes in America still astromonically outweighs the number of deaths by police, so the fact that violent crimes is decreasing is irrelevant.
3. Hurt maybe, but everyone knows when police kill a person. People who compile up these numbers are just lazy.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:42 pm to Alahunter
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infers they had an agenda to kill they guy.
no it doesn't. Sadly you are supporting the cop intelligence stereotype with responses like this
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There ain't but one group of folks judging in here.
Do you really want me to post just a small list of the stories about cops abusing power, murdering, assaulting, illegally arresting, and other criminal behavior from the last couple weeks? Criminal behavior from the police is a COMMON occurrence.
Don't worry though...the anti-police sentiment that is steadily rising isnt the fault of criminal actions by the police. It's because all those people DESERVED to be assaulted, it was THEIR fault they were killed, etc.
You sound like the damn rape apologists.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:42 pm to KeyserSoze999
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especially in a country where people aren't allowed to speak and protest. I'm sure being sedated works well in North Korea, sometimes
slapping a child around and being combative when authorities show up to investigate is akin to North Korea..
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:43 pm to novabill
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Lets say some 5 non cop dudes were the ones on top of this guy and the guy dies.
What position do the cops take towards the 5 non cop dudes? Any different than the view I am taking of the cops here?
depends what was the guy doing before the guys jumped on him?
Also if we don't want cops responding to situations where a citizen calls about domestic abuse in public, than who do we want in this situation?
The cops are the ones that should be there dealing with it in the first place, and everyone is too willing to pass judgement without any information.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:43 pm to Alahunter
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Showing respect, and not acting like a damn animal isn't that hard to do, and gets you through life a lot easier.
Do you cops feel the need to be as respectful as you require us to be?
Cops have a responsibility to behave in a certain way, and my respect or lack thereof does not free him from his responsibilities.
You seem to indicate that the cops are justified in breaking the law if I am a disrespectful animal. I do not see any word from you regarding disrespectful cops.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:44 pm to CptBengal
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Do you really want me to post just a small list of the stories about cops abusing power, murdering, assaulting, illegally arresting, and other criminal behavior from the last couple weeks?
Sure. Go ahead. Then give the statistics, on how many LEO there are in this country, how many calls they answer and give me the percentages of these abuses, compared to the overall numbers.
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You sound like the damn rape apologists.
You sound like one of the folks who get their asses beat down, because of your, NOBODY IS GONNA TELL ME, attitudes. Just like that guy in the OP. I guess he showed them, huh?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:46 pm to CptBengal
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Do you really want me to post just a small list of the stories about cops abusing power, murdering, assaulting, illegally arresting, and other criminal behavior from the last couple weeks?
sure but i would point out that you would never be able to list all the legitimate arrests.
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Criminal behavior from the police is a COMMON occurrence.
Criminal behavior is common amongst humans. Cops also go to jail.
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You sound like the damn rape apologists.
You sound like the feminize who implies i am a basically a rapist because i have a dick.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:46 pm to SammyTiger
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cops get sued all the time. You are ignorant if you don't think police department discourage poor conduct. It costs them big bucks, and even more when the guy dies
Yet, you and your ilk come on here and defend cops all the time.
If a cop does enough to get sued and lose, why do we not hear of more of them going to jail?
About the most you ever here for the worst offenders is that they are punished by the department in some cases fired.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:46 pm to novabill
I've been discussing the situation posted and those similar in general. How you construe that to believe I think anyone who wears the badge, is above reproach, is kinda confusing to me. Of course there are bad apples in the profession. Just as there is in all walks of life. That's a really weak supposition.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:47 pm to Alahunter
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Then give the statistics, on how many LEO there are in this country, how many calls they answer and give me the percentages of these abuses, compared to the overall numbers.
Oh, so it's fine if the reported incidents are only a portion of their overall actions?
Take a guess on what portion of my profession I'm allowed to be criminal....
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You sound like one of the folks who get their asses beat down, because of your, NOBODY IS GONNA TELL ME, attitudes.
Actually I learned long ago how to handle your kind. Every interaction is recorded. My conversation begins and ends with "I am recording this conversation, please state your name and badge number for the recorder."
Then I choose to not to say another word.
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