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Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:11 pm to LSUGrrrl
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She said he was dead
According to the report, he wasn't. Her assessment was wrong. It's very possible, they are responsible for it, with an excess of force. It's also possible, other factors caused it. Still no way to know at this point. Just wanting more info before condemning them. I expect she said it, because she was a bit hysterical and as with nearly all domestic cases, both parties turn on police.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:12 pm to Alahunter
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Those 5 cops have been busy...
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shoot your dog, break into your home, put a young girl on the pavement for walking across the street
Not that particular crew, but the gang in general.
I wonder if you will be on here saying we should hear more evidence before expressing outrage the next time something bad happens to LEO.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:13 pm to CptBengal
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the fricking game warden was there for an UNRELATED CALL....what investigation was there?
I think you're confusing things. The GW was there for a call? I read it as the officers arrived for another call and the GW was already there. How can you argue any points, when you can't even get the information right when it's available to look at?
As soon as a potential crime is brought to their attention, it's a criminal matter and any questions or actions from that point forward, is an investigation. If they already knew the answers, there would have been no need to ask the individuals anything.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:14 pm to novabill
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I wonder if you will be on here saying we should hear more evidence before expressing outrage the next time something bad happens to LEO.
Usually there is a ton of information. Most people who shoot cops aren't there because they are contactually obligated to respond to crimes.
Likewise what percentage of threads about police are examples of them doing their job correctly?
This post was edited on 2/27/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:15 pm to novabill
Probably not. Will you be all up in threads praising the next one that helps a homeless person, or that arrests a drunk driver, praising him as someone who likely saved a life by doing so? Hyperbole takes away from arguments and the case in question.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:15 pm to Alahunter
I agree with waiting for more info. I find it off that she said he wasn't breathing and that he was dead instead of he's hurt, which is much more common to see & hear in these types of videos.
It doesn't really matter anyway. What should have been a simple issue resulted in a man dying. I'm not a cop hater but I think this deserves a lot more investigation and would find it hard to justify 5 cops needing to use such force as to kill an unarmed man.
It doesn't really matter anyway. What should have been a simple issue resulted in a man dying. I'm not a cop hater but I think this deserves a lot more investigation and would find it hard to justify 5 cops needing to use such force as to kill an unarmed man.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:15 pm to Alahunter
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The GW was there for a call? I read it as the officers arrived for another call and the GW was already there
read it again captain fail at reading comprehension.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:16 pm to LSUGrrrl
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I think this deserves a lot more investigation
I do too.
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find it hard to justify 5 cops needing to use such force as to kill an unarmed man.
Assuming that's what happened. It would still be a jump to say that's the case, until the autopsy has returned. Likely? Yeah.. but there are other things that could have happened.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:20 pm to CptBengal
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quote:The GW was there for a call? I read it as the officers arrived for another call and the GW was already there
read it again captain fail at reading comprehension.
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, police were called to the theater at about 8 p.m. on Feb. 15 on a separate matter
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but were alerted to an argument between members of the Rodriguez family by a witness. Department of Wildlife Officer Chad Strang, who police said was unsure of the details of the alleged assault, made contact with Rodriguez, investigators said.
Sounds like the GW was already there, and the witness perhaps. It's unclear. But it is clear, that police were called there for another reason. So, yes... you were wrong with your statement, as I said.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:20 pm to SammyTiger
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Usually there is a ton of information. Most people who shoot cops aren't there because they are contactually obligated to respond to crimes.
Willing to wait to condemn cops but no one else.
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Likewise what percentage of threads about police are examples of them doing their job correctly?
Why do we care when they do what they are supposed to do? No reason to discuss that.
Tell us, why does that hurt your feelings?
Care to tell us your connection with LE? You seem more sensitive to this conversation than the cops on here.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:24 pm to Alahunter
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Will you be all up in threads praising the next one that helps a homeless person, or that arrests a drunk driver, praising him as someone who likely saved a life by doing so? Hyperbole takes away from arguments and the case in question.
Actually I did comment earlier in this thread about the cop in SD that helped the kid out at the burger joint right before being killed.
All cops are not bad. But plenty become bad after being cops for a while and much of that is due to the system that teaches them that they can get get away with mistreating people. Normally when they mistreat criminals people dont care because, well, they are criminals. But that culture leads to them mistreating others as well.
There should be outrage EVERY TIME a cop misuses their authority against anyone. There needs to be punishments, the same punishment that others would get if they committed the same crime, when cops do abuse their power. Cops themselves need to condemn the bad actions of other cops. Then, maybe the culture of cops would change and respect and honor may come back to them.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:26 pm to novabill
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There should be outrage EVERY TIME a cop misuses their authority against anyone.
I don't disagree with that. But show that this incident meets that criteria first. Until today's release, the only info put out, was by the family's lawyer and the wife. There wasn't, and still isn't, imo, enough info released to have a logical and rational conclusion drawn.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:28 pm to Alahunter
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According to the report, he wasn't. Her assessment was wrong.
You just lost any and all credibility, She said he was dead and he was in fact dead. I am starting to think about calling you names.
Explain to me how her observation was wrong.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:28 pm to Alahunter
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. But show that this incident meets that criteria first.
I see no evidence why he was jumped on by 5
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:28 pm to novabill
I think cops who have been on the job a while just see too many bad people doing too many bad things and becomes very hard for them to give anyone the benefit of the doubt. They begin treating everyone like a hardened criminal.
That's a lot of generalization there. But I do think it happens.
That's a lot of generalization there. But I do think it happens.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I see no evidence why he was jumped on by 5
No kidding? You mean we've only seen what the family's lawyer wanted us to see at this point?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:29 pm to bencoleman
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She said he was dead and he was in fact dead
Yeah, they gave her a line about him being OK. It appears he was dead before he left the site.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:31 pm to bencoleman
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You just lost any and all credibility, She said he was dead and he was in fact dead. I am starting to think about calling you names. Explain to me how her observation was wrong.
Officers said paramedics then loaded Luis Rodriguez into an ambulance where they administered medical assistance to him. According to the report, it was at this time that Luis Rodriguez stopped breathing and he was then taken to Moore Medical Center where he was stabilized.
Police said Luis Rodriguez was then taken for a CT scan after which he stopped breathing again and died a short time later
Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You think the police would let that out, knowing that there will be medical records from the paramedics and ER? Or are they also in cahoots?
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