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re: Mall of Louisiana Annexation Does Not Include Major Dept. Stores

Posted on 5/8/14 at 10:02 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/8/14 at 10:02 am to
I don't like Delgado either. Unfortunately I live in his district. I supported and contributed to his opponent.

But he has been 100% correct starting last year when he said major commercial properties on the fringe of the SG area would ask to be annexed.

Of course the SG fanboys on this board all said he was wrong back then.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 10:08 am to
I've also noticed that the fanboys haven't addressed the CATS service and taxes.

Isn't their rallying cry "We pay for city services we don't use or get"?

Apparently it's the opposite. I'm paying for SG services.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

Apparently it's the opposite. I'm paying for SG services.


If you pay property taxes in the newly created CATS taxing district, you are disproportionately paying for services that extend into SG.

But you know who created that monster?

Hint: It wasn't Browning, Rainey, Yates, or White.

And if I were Russian I'd say you were whining, but Then again I'm not so smart and I do make mistakes so I won't go there.

Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 10:59 pm to
Didn't want to start a new thread, but are we just going to ignore Russians statements months ago about the corrupt no-bid contracts between LR3 and Bodi White?


Or Bodi Whtie's being accused of fudging Education numbers?


Or any of the other shady dealings that these people are a part of, and SG proponents blindly follow?


Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:18 pm to
St.George is run by volunteers. Rainey is a volunteer spokesman. If any of these people were to ever run for office, then voters could make their decisions at that time. For now, St.George incorporation remains a grassroots effort.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

St.George is run by volunteers. Rainey is a volunteer spokesman. If any of these people were to ever run for office, then voters could make their decisions at that time. For now, St.George incorporation remains a grassroots effort.




You truly believe that, don't you?


Bodi White and Rainey are corrupt as hell and they want to make SG their new playground to bilk the citizens of more money.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:32 pm to
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Bodi White and Rainey are corrupt as hell and they want to make SG their new playground to bilk the citizens of more money


Rainey holds no office. White recently voted against St.George on the Nevers bill. Your comments are irrelevant until the city forms.
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:33 pm to
And I don't "believe" the effort is run by volunteers, I know it is
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:36 pm to
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Rainey holds no office. White recently voted against St.George on the Nevers bill. Your comments are irrelevant until the city forms.




It doesn't bother you at all that these two are connected with this?


Like, at all?
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:40 pm to
Rainey wasn't even at the public forum Tuesday, Neither was white. Amoroso and Heck were. So I'm guessing those 2 are now working for St.George according to your (lack) of logic.

St.George is run by volunteers. If you think white and Rainey are dirty thats fine, but unless they're elected to office in st.george its irrelevant.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Heck



You mean the political panderer? The guy who thought it was a great idea to annex the Mall and Towne Center a year ago before this movement started?

Convenient how he changed his mind.

quote:

St.George is run by volunteers.


The website lists the contact info for information as Rainey. If he's not the leader, or a leader, then SG has a funny way of getting that across.

quote:

If you think white and Rainey are dirty thats fine, but unless they're elected to office in st.george its irrelevant.


He is dirty.


And him being in office doesn't prevent him from stealing from the people.


He wasn't in office when his less-than-a-month-old company got a no-bid $717,000 contract from the state through White.

This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:52 pm to
Great. If he runs for office, I'll vote against him. What is your point??? He's a volunteer unless elected or given a contract from the city of st.George.

I know it kills you that a grassroots effort has disrupted the status quo, but thats all this is. Until we are on the November ballot, that is:)
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
35877 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:14 am to
Again, these are the people leading the effort. They started it, and are in charge of it.


The St George website says this:

quote:

Spokesperson and Media Contact:

Lionel Rainey III (225) 247-4246 (Email)



Bodi White started the campaign under the auspices of "schools":

quote:

More than a year ago and before the St. George pullout movement was formalized, White called on businesses in South Baton Rouge in an effort to drum up financial support for a charter school in that part of the parish.



And let's look at what these two have been doing together:

quote:

But LED’s $717,000 contract no. 718453 with a company called LR3 would appear to warrant closer examination.

The president of LR3 is one Lionel Rainey, III, who people in Baton Rouge will recognize as the public face of a concerted effort to break away from Baton Rouge and to create a separate city of St. George in East Baton Rouge Parish.



quote:

But what about that contract with LED?

Well, first of all, it was awarded on a no-bid basis. In other words, LED never issued a request for proposals (RFP) nor did LR3 ever submit a proposal despite having no obvious qualifications for creating an Internet database system.

When asked about the no-bid contract, LED responded by pointing out that contracts for social services may be awarded “without the necessity of competitive bidding or competitive negotiation,” provided the director of the Office of Contractual Review determines that certain conditions apply, one of which is that the total contract amount is less than $250,000 per 12-month period.

At the same time, LED’s response acknowledged that service requirements “shall not be artificially divided so as to exempt contracts from the (RFP) process.”

And that’s where things get a bit dicey.

LATRAC, the state database for contracts, lists the amount of Contract no. 718453 as $717,202 over three years (Oct. 20, 2012 through Sept. 30, 2015) while the LED contract document breaks the contract into three amounts: $217,204 the first year and $249,999 in the second and third years.


quote:


Not only did LED appear to be circumventing the RFP procedure by breaking the contract into three sections, but there appear to also be questions about another state regulation that says agency heads shall take into account, in the following order, “the professional or technical competence of offers, the technical merits of offers, and the compensation for which services are to be rendered, including fee.”

First, there appears to have been no “offer” from LR3, which only incorporated as a business on Sept. 19, 2012—barely a month before its $717,000 contract with LED took effect on Oct. 20, 2012.


quote:

So, to recap, we have a company that is barely a month old landing a $717,000 contract with a state agency without benefit of competitive bidding, or without a formal proposal from a contracting firm that provided no evidence of its qualifications to perform work that appears to be already available through another state agency, LWC.



Here's where it gets really good:


quote:

And then there’s LR3’s billing address.

Invoices submitted to LED by LR3 give its billing address as 2133 Silverside Drive, Suite A, in Baton Rouge.

Rainey is also listed as president of Vote Guards Dot Org., of the same address.

But there also are three other businesses of 2133 Silverside Drive, Suite A, Baton Rouge, according to the Louisiana Secretary of State’s corporate web page: Phoenix Consulting Group, BP Oil Claim Solutions, LLC, and EFL Angels Foundation.

All three list Meredith Eicher as a corporate officer.

Meredith Eicher, along with her sister Ashley, was sentenced to five months in prison in 1990 after pleading guilty to two counts of aiding and abetting mail fraud in connection with the collapse of Champion Insurance Co.

She also was ordered to serve two years’ probation after her release and fined $10,000.

Champion, the third largest insurer in the state, collapsed in June of 1989, leaving $150 million in unpaid claims. Her father, John Eicher, was sentenced to 46 months in prison in connection with the collapse which also implicated then State Insurance Commissioner Doug Green, who received $2.7 million in bribes from the Eichers. He received a 25-year federal sentence.


To sum up:

quote:

All in all, when one takes the St. George pullout effort that is supported by a political figure at the opposite end of East Baton Rouge Parish and led by an individual whose newly founded company, housed in the same office as four other companies—three of which have as a corporate officer someone who participated in the defrauding of $150 million in insurance claims 25 years ago—lands a $717,000 no-bid contract with the state, one has to ask….

What could possibly go wrong?



What could go wrong?
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:19 am to
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Didn't want to start a new thread, but are we just going to ignore Russians statements months ago about the corrupt no-bid contracts between LR3 and Bodi White?


Media won't publicize it either because they want this to go to election, where the real money starts pouring in.

Hell, I will jump in on the Saint George bandwagon if Bodi White has the state give me $700K for doing nothing
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 12:23 am
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 3:09 am to
quote:

What could go wrong?


Well, to start, Rainey and the organizers will have the inside track at being the mayor and city council of the new entity if they're successful. The gravy train is pulling into the station!
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 4:22 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Didn't want to start a new thread,


You should, it is totally unrelated to the OP.

Bedsides I'm interested in knowing about what LD is, how this works, etc.

This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 8:14 am
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Again, these are the people leading the effort. They started it, and are in charge of it.


Wrong.

quote:

Bodi White started the campaign


Really wrong.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42619 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 10:45 am to
I appreciate your input here Sprockets. I sense you have friends in the leadership and that like me you don't want this to become a personality issue, but an issue debated on the merits of the case at hand.

I can understand the angst about beginning a new city and I'm not really for a new city, but I am for a new school district and as I have said previously, that if I have to take a chance on a city to get our own school systems then I'm for the city.

Now I can fully understand how some are opposed especially to the city; however, to come on these boards and make it an issue about Rainey, white, Browning, Yates, or any of the other characters in this play instead of debating real issues (like we have at times) is bad.

If you want to line up the cast of characters and then vote on who you like or who you trust here's the list:

SG Browning, Yates, Rainey, and White (the evil empire) and others.

Opposing SG are Holden, Daniels, Delgado, Marcelle, Colombe, Broome, Brooks, Davis, (the together crowd) and others.

If you are into all that investigate these people, find out what they have been doing and what they are all about. I have no problem with that, but I'm not letting Rainey, White, Holden or Colombe define the issues for me. They all have agendas of their own. Both sides.

But I would say I'd trust a Browning or a Brooks before I trusted a White or a Colombe.

Keep up the fight Sprockets.
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