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re: MAHA: Child vaccine schedule reduces from 72 jabs to 11
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:48 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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My man, you appear to be upset that the human immune system needs priming.
Does it really, though?
We are all born incomplete and awaiting necessary medical intervention in order to live full, healthy lives?
The human immune system is a wonderful thing.
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:20 pm to SallysHuman
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We are all born incomplete and awaiting necessary medical intervention in order to live full, healthy lives?
We are born into a world where human immune systems are connected, so that the health of the 'weakest' human is tied to the health of the healthiest. And have you read any work which references what human life was like before widespread public health measures? Because the answer to your question is yes.
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The human immune system is a wonderful thing
And apparently we have to be governed by the whims of morons who think features of the human immune system are somehow innate.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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And have you read any work which references what human life was like before widespread public health measures?
Sanitation for the win!
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:27 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:28 pm to SallysHuman
Yeah truly an example of how perfect our immune systems are from birth. Again, another example of stellar logic as well as ignoring direct questions in favor of a retarded, thought-terminating reply. They really aren't sending their best.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:30 pm to Kjnstkmn
I’m ok with this but if we want to model after Europe with health, we need to get rid of all the crap preservatives and gmo crap in our food supply. We also need to invest more in regenerative agriculture practices so that our soil is healthier
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:31 pm to crazy4lsu
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Yeah truly an example of how perfect our immune systems are from birth. Again, another example of stellar logic as well as ignoring direct questions in favor of a retarded, thought-terminating reply.
Do you deny improved hygiene and sanitation practices have a little something to do with improved human health?
I will never be convinced that a neonates body is incomplete without a universal hepB vaccine administered hours after birth. Apparently other countries and our own CDC aren't recommending either. How very stellar of them.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:33 pm to lsucoonass
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I’m ok with this but if we want to model after Europe with health, we need to get rid of all the crap preservatives and gmo crap in our food supply. We also need to invest more in regenerative agriculture practices so that our soil is healthier
Agreed... I think the tides are beginning to turn on the food additive angle now, thank goodness. Our food supply is atrocious.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:00 pm to SallysHuman
Just a heads up. Europe is heading in the wrong direction with food that is healthy.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:01 pm to omegaman66
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Just a heads up. Europe is heading in the wrong direction with food that is healthy.
Whatchu mean?
I don't know much, but I was aware they limited additives, have a better definition of organic and other labels and that you can eat their eggs raw without fear.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:02 pm to SallysHuman
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Do you deny improved hygiene and sanitation practices have a little something to do with improved human health?
The effect was/is cumulative. Because it changed the exposure matrix. Once pathogens which were transmitted by fecal-oral routes were controlled, we could focus on the sequelae of pathogens, like Polio, which were extremely serious but also rare. And then we could focus on pathogens which have different transmission routes. None of this undermines any current vaccination strategy. If you knew the history, then it should strengthen it.
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I will never be convinced that a neonates body is incomplete without a universal hepB vaccine administered hours after birth. Apparently other countries and our own CDC aren't recommending either. How very stellar of them
Over 100 countries administer the vaccine at or near birth. Something like 60% of WHO members. I don't know what this is supposed to show or be evidence of. And again, the evidence that it has some profound side effects is only propagated by RFK's own Children Defense Fund. That is not a prevailing reason that countries choose not to vaccinate children.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:10 pm to crazy4lsu
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Over 100 countries administer the vaccine at or near birth.
Quite a few of those are risk based, not universal.
I don't oppose risk based.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:22 pm to crazy4lsu
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crazy4lsu
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:25 pm to SallysHuman
Yes, I'm sure you have a meaningful and nuanced knowledge of hepatitis B vaccination strategies worldwide. Is there anything else you want to regale me on?
Again, these countries aren't making those risk assessments based on one of my original points, which is where the risks of the vaccine outweigh the potential sequelae of the disease. That was one of your direct assertions, was it not?
Again, these countries aren't making those risk assessments based on one of my original points, which is where the risks of the vaccine outweigh the potential sequelae of the disease. That was one of your direct assertions, was it not?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:26 pm to texag7
Hey bud lets keep it to your feelings thread.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:27 pm to crazy4lsu
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crazy4lsu
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:29 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, these countries aren't making those risk assessments based on one of my original points, which is where the risks of the vaccine outweigh the potential sequelae of the disease. That was one of your direct assertions, was it not?
They are non endemic countries, as are we.
Risk/Benefit rather than universal coverage.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:37 pm to SallysHuman
And again, list out for me the risks of hepatitis b vaccination, given that you claimed that vaccination with it is worse than the potential disease. Do you need me to quote you or are you just going to continue operating in bad-faith?
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:43 pm to crazy4lsu
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And again, list out for me the risks of hepatitis b vaccination, given that you claimed that vaccination with it is worse than the potential disease.
1st... you can look up, and surely already know the risks of the vaccination.
2nd... I didn't compare the vaccine to the disease because the disease is not a given or even a high risk in a low incidence country with an uninfected mother.
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:47 pm to SallysHuman
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1st... you can look up, and surely already know the risks of the vaccination
Oh. So the answer is that the risks of Hep B vaccination specifically are no different from any vaccine. Wow. I can see why you avoided this question until now.
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2nd... I didn't compare the vaccine to the disease because the disease is not a given or even a high risk in a low incidence country with an uninfected mother
What did I ask originally?
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