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re: Maduro survives assassination attempt

Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:51 am to
Posted by boogedy
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:51 am to
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I don't necessarily think that's true at all. Left-wing ideas have slowly been influencing culture more and more since the dawn of civilization. The right-wing is merely there to slow down the off the rails progression. We are kind of a team even though most of us don't like each other. 

Eventually through use of technology and automation, people will not be required to work hardly at all. What do you think will happen then? Have you seen human nature put in a situation like that? 

Don't get me wrong, I still think there will be people that try to take more than other people and keep it from those people but eventually people won't need all of that cuz they'll have all their needs taken care of.



This may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Wow
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:11 pm to
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Are you trying to say humans are greedy naturally?


To one degree, or another.


I would argue that Humanity has not learned to be honest enough with itself to admit that we need to learn how to let go, develop awareness, and comfort our ego by teaching it to let go. We need less standardized testing and more critical thinking.

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Eventually through use of technology and automation, people will not be required to work hardly at all.


That would be a bad thing, there is nothing more destructive than a lack of purpose.

In nature, creatures without a purpose die.

The land of the lotus eaters was a false paradise.


The true intellectual is an individual who has found something better than sex. It's really hard for you to say what humanity's true nature would be in such a setting because we haven't actually seen it. The land of the lotus-eaters was a fictional story in a time much different than the years of tomorrow.

It also wouldn't happen all at once. It would be a gradual thing and people would learn how to mature by making mistakes through error. People wouldn't be without a purpose. They would be free to find theirs. Arguably more free than any freedom we have ever known. Free to observe, free to study....real freedom.

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You see time as a linear progression, where man can reform himself, and change. Or at least, where you can reform man.


And who's to say any of that isn't natural? I am in fact a part of nature in tune with nature. As adversity presses down upon you, you evolve. Time is a circle and also linear at the same time. You must accept the paradox in order to understand both the perspective of Destruction and of evolution. But at the end of the day they're not incredibly balanced after all because life itself exist and something keeps trying to grow and understand more.

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Human nature is ultimately rooted in biology, and genetics. Culture and upbringing shape it, but the drives are inherently primal.


I really have a problem with your assessment based on the fact that you couldn't possibly understand human nature. You can see how humans respond in certain settings but you can't predict how they will respond in those same settings in a different circumstance as they evolve later.

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Socialism fails, because it fails to account for those drives.



We are not ready for socialism. I don't know that we will ever truly be ready for it but I believe if all needs are simple to produce through the means of technology and automation, there wouldn't be much use for working which means there wouldn't be much use for paying people vastly different amounts of money and creating a huge disparity in the socioeconomic strata.

I believe that through science people will find more of a sense of purpose. Studying electron behavior is absolutely fascinating. Understanding Dimensions is fascinating. Realizing the quantum world is made up of every choice that you could possibly make at every given moment is fascinating.

What I'm saying is that purpose is something that can change.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:12 pm to
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The right-wing is merely there to slow down the off the rails progression.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:13 pm to
You are one hippie retard
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73596 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:13 pm to
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The true intellectual is an individual who has found something better than sex


Wtf
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:17 pm to
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You are one hippie retard


I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe one day when you're ready we can actually have a conversation without it immediately making your brain recoil.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:18 pm to
It is kind of funny isn't it? Almost every right wing belief system, over time, has has slowly progressed.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48945 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:20 pm to
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Almost every right wing belief system, over time, has has slowly progressed


Whoa. So people's beliefs are evolving over time since the Constitution?! No way??!
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Whoa. So people's beliefs are evolving over time since the Constitution?! No way??!


Exactly what I'm saying. Conservative ideologies of anytime are always going to be replaced over time. Thanks for helping prove my point
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Eventually through use of technology and automation, people will not be required to work hardly at all. What do you think will happen then? Have you seen human nature put in a situation like that?


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This may be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Wow


There were idiots saying the same things after the invention of the steam engine, electricity, the computer, etc, innovation will never totally displace the need for human workers, it just creates demand for new skill sets.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90606 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:53 pm to
Is Maduro trying to look like Stalin or something
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