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re: Louisiana Senator and anti-vaxer

Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:16 am to
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
32799 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:16 am to
The anti vaxxers aren’t the issue. It wouldn’t be a problem without the illegals. And we would still have outbreaks even if everyone was vaccinated except the illegals. Vaccines are only 85-90% effective. Meaning 10-15% would still be susceptible to the illnesses. You can’t protect those people except by removing the threat
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:18 am to
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Can we deport the anti-vaxxers with the illegals?
Why not just ensure YOUR vaccinations are up to date, and leave others to their own device?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:23 am to
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Sen. John Milkovich, a Keithville Democrat, assailed vaccines Monday on the Senate floor as unsafe, repeating claims that studies have discredited.


I have found our problem


This stupidity is not limited to the Dems

In fact, sadly most of the anti-vaccines politicians recently have been republicans.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:24 am to
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The worst part is people call them "anti" vaccinations. This is mostly false. Most just want proper safety testing and cleaner vaccines w/out the toxic adjuvants and preservatives


There are just as many of these substances in your kids breakfast foods, and often at significantly lower levels than in modern vaccines.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:35 am to
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the anti-vaccines politicians
You are casting a very wide net. Perhaps it is unintentional. There are two distinct elements involving this topic. One is risk vs benefit of various vaccines. The other is the intrusion into individual freedoms involved in forcing people to be vaccinated.

Again, it seems to me that YOU can control what YOU do. YOU can control what YOUR risks are. If YOU are concerned about contracting a disease for which YOU can be vaccinated, then YOU should ensure YOU are up to date on YOUR vaccinations.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:38 am to
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You are casting a very wide net. Perhaps it is unintentional. There are two distinct elements involving this topic. One is risk vs benefit of various vaccines. The other is the intrusion into individual freedoms involved in forcing people to be vaccinated.

Again, it seems to me that YOU can control what YOU do. YOU can control what YOUR risks are. If YOU are concerned about contracting a disease for which YOU can be vaccinated, then YOU should ensure YOU are up to date on YOUR vaccinations.



Nope. Not casting too wide a net.

Vaccines have saved and continue to save literally millions of lives.

Some are too young or have other medical issues that prevent them from being vaccinated. Your selfish arse refusing to get them because of some bogus boogey man puts them at risk. And you do it intentionally

If you don’t vaccinated without a legitimate medical excuse, you are the equivalent of a bioterrorist and should be treated as such.

Period.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 10:39 am
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:49 am to
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The anti vaxxers aren’t the issue.


They are definitely the issue. We live in this world together. The more targets a virus or a bacterium have, the more likely they are to do a “work around” adaptation to get to those who vaccinate. The only way to be entirely free of them is to drive them into extinction.

We had done just that with measles and bovine TB in this country, for example. Both have surged back as public health concerns because of the invasion of illegal aliens across our southern border.

When the vaccine revolution of the 20th century wiped major communicable diseases off the front pages of America’s newspapers, complacency set in. Then some idiots decided that autism was caused by vaccinations.

There were no major diseases circulating in the country, so the uneducated American public bought in thinking, “Well, what do vaccines really do? Nobody gets these diseases the vaccines are supposed to protect us from. Vaccines must cause autism. They have to do something, amirite?”

These same idiots can’t make the association between illegal aliens and the diseases they bring with them. They don’t understand that one of the main necessities for screening immigrants is to make sure that those who are sick are held back until they become well.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:51 am to
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There are just as many of these substances in your kids breakfast foods
But to the best of my knowledge the government does not forcefeed those substances to kids. That is the difference.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:52 am to
You seriously don’t understand how diseases work.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:52 am to
Because the effectiveness of vaccines is enhanced by a population where as many as possible vaccinate.

Just because your vaccinated doesn't mean immunity. It just makes it harder. And if a disease has a host near that it can easily latch to it will have more chances to repeatedly attack a vaccinated person. And will eventually overwhelm if given the opportunity.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135805 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:58 am to
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Your selfish arse refusing to get them because of some bogus boogey man puts them at risk.
When you say "your", you didn't mean "your" as in me personally, right?

I'm assuming that, because it would be beyond ignorant if such personalization actually was your intent.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135805 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:59 am to
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You seriously don’t understand how diseases work.



Please do tell.

Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:04 am to
Okay, you’re an idiot. A laughing idiot but an idiot just the same.
Posted by Uhtred
Bebbanburg
Member since Sep 2018
919 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:05 am to
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BamaAtl
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Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87832 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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Jesus, 3 posts in...


This is the Poli Board.

Don’t blame the poster you responded to because YOU were too dumb to check this Senator’s party affiliation before posting what you assumed would be some sort of gotcha.

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For the record, the political affiliation for anti-vaxers is mixed. At 1st, it was the left pushing it. Now, it's the alt-right to protect religious liberties.


Now that’s what I call a strategic retreat.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135805 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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Just because your vaccinated doesn't mean immunity.
True.
There is a spectrum of cause in terms of ineffectiveness. A significant element in the spectrum is loss of vaccine-conferred immunity over time. That is a personally controllable issue. Requisite vaccination for all immigrants is, likewise, completely controllable. Both are nearly unconsidered in arguments for forced vaccination of reticent parties. Before impacting other citizens' rights, it seems we should do all we ourselves can.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:15 am to
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When you say "your", you didn't mean "your" as in me personally, right?

I'm assuming that, because it would be beyond ignorant if such personalization actually was your intent.



I meant it he same way you meant YOU and YOUR in the post I replied to.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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135805 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:23 am to
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Uhtred
34 posts
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BamaAtl





Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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135805 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:24 am to
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I meant it he same way you meant YOU and YOUR in the post I replied to.

Then you posted out of ignorance.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135805 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:39 am to
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Okay, you’re an idiot. A laughing idiot but an idiot just the same.
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Kentucker

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