- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Louisiana A rated schools are falling and F rated schools are on the rise-we need choice
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:29 pm to Clames
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:29 pm to Clames
quote:this ignores the point at hand. school choice is creating competition which is increasing success and it's the right thing to do socially.
So the state raised standards and fewer schools got A's and more got F's in the first analysis under the new standards
0
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:34 pm to will0637
quote:which precisely substantiates the point of the op - competition
Charter school are debatable. They can pick and choose who they take in to bump up their scores
quote:you're basically saying that if charter schools reject a particular person, they are out of options except for handicapped public schools, which is a false dilemma. the choice is not between charter schools or public schools. the choice is between the parents and legislation.
They leave the public schools to care for disabled children
quote:no we are not and that is totally completely wrong. we are in this for liberty to choose how you see fit. your characterization is socialist, not capitalist.
We are in this together to make a better society
quote:you can pick out SOME charter schools that aren't good but it wouldn't address the second point i made - freedom of choice. just because some charter schools are not run well does not mean my choice should be curtailed.
Charter schools test scores
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:38 pm to I B Freeman
Goddamn it IB, I’m calling you scum in one thread and then you have to post something I actually agree with.
My wife’s in her 4th year teaching in the public school and she’s just about had enough. She’s sticking it out for now because it’s such a convienient job for her, but I anticipate her calling it quits before long.
My wife’s in her 4th year teaching in the public school and she’s just about had enough. She’s sticking it out for now because it’s such a convienient job for her, but I anticipate her calling it quits before long.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:38 pm to bfniii
Going totally private in education would sure be a shock to the system of the wealthy. Those who live in nice suburbs and good school districts are getting quite a deal. Totally doing away with public education would temporarily be a good thing in that those who benefit from it would surely hate to lose the benefits they have now.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:40 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
quote:
Totally doing away with public education would temporarily be a good thing in that those who benefit from it would surely hate to lose the benefits they have now.
No, they’d just send their kids to the more expensive school the poor bloodsuckers couldn’t afford.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:43 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
I agree somewhat with that statement Ralph and many of them are the biggest opponents to school choice. It is short sited thinking.
Nobody should force a school to take a voucher. They can build themselves schools that are cash only if they want.
I think the number that could not find a school that suites them with a voucher are very small relative to the total number.
Nobody should force a school to take a voucher. They can build themselves schools that are cash only if they want.
I think the number that could not find a school that suites them with a voucher are very small relative to the total number.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:55 pm to braindeadboxer
quote:that's why we need to work to ensure quality public schools for all children
Totally doing away with public education would temporarily be a good thing in that those who benefit from it would surely hate to lose the benefits they have now.
No, they’d just send their kids to the more expensive school the poor bloodsuckers couldn’t afford.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 7:57 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
that's why we need to work to ensure quality public schools for all children
Well when is that going to start?
It sure as shite isn't happening now.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:04 pm to gthog61
quote:a good start would be to decouple local taxes from public schooling... so that every school in the state gets the same funding... Texas has such a law and calls it "Robin Hood"
Well when is that going to start?
It sure as shite isn't happening now.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:10 pm to chalmetteowl
How many years should a family wait for this improvement the established education bureaucracy promises?
You guys always have some problem you want to blame and when that problem is solved you come up with something else. Every time the problems are solved another layer of rules or regulation are laid on the school and management becomes even more complicated.
Every educator should appreciate an all voucher system so the money starts in the class room and the entrepreneurs among them will have a huge supply of well financed customers. I know the teachers could make classrooms better than what we have now if given the incentive and the authority. They see the real needs every day. They would all have more money for their own pay too.
You guys always have some problem you want to blame and when that problem is solved you come up with something else. Every time the problems are solved another layer of rules or regulation are laid on the school and management becomes even more complicated.
Every educator should appreciate an all voucher system so the money starts in the class room and the entrepreneurs among them will have a huge supply of well financed customers. I know the teachers could make classrooms better than what we have now if given the incentive and the authority. They see the real needs every day. They would all have more money for their own pay too.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:34 pm to I B Freeman
(no message)
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 10:14 am
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:39 pm to dixiechick
quote:
Who do you think the schools that take the vouchers will be held accountable to?? There will be “strings”attached to every voucher, every child. Do you really think the govt is going to let parents choose to use the voucher on whatever educational experience they want for their child. You are delusional if you do.
I think the government should. Wouldn't you rather let the market solve such problems that you dream up than waiting for the government bureaucracy to provide well run government schools???
Do you need the government to decide what grocery store you shop at? what car dealer you go too?
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:44 pm to I B Freeman
Give the teachers their paddle back and quit raising little hellcats, then maybe we can get and keep quality teachers instead of pedophiles that got fired from the prison.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:50 pm to LSUbest
My idea of an all voucher system would let schools be established that have their own rules and their own discipline requirements.
We need to start flunking kids out of school when they don't study too.
We need to start flunking kids out of school when they don't study too.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:56 pm to I B Freeman
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 10:13 am
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:59 pm to I B Freeman
quote:The only thing you got correct in your tantrum was that I do not support vouchers. I'm ambivalent about tariffs. For you to mindlessly parrot a line that nationalism in Trump's use of it equals fascism demonstrates exactly what an empty hack you are.
You aren't for school choice. You aren't for small government. You aren't for less taxes and tariffs on American consumers. You are for more war. You are for using the government to attack great American companies like Facebook, Google, Amazon and Microsoft because the President doesn't like them. I think you are even for film tax credits. Facists were big protectionist and taxed the crap out of their people so their pet industries could expand and make fortunes.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:59 pm to dixiechick
quote:
So you want ALL schools, children and families held accountable to govt standards? Vouchers for all will certainly ensure that happens.
And what is this free market you speak of that would be completely reliant on govt $$?
What do you want??
I want the money taken from families for education given to them to pay for education that has unfortunately become a given function of government.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:00 pm to I B Freeman
quote:God, you're incredibly naive about what strings come with govt money.
My idea of an all voucher system would let schools be established that have their own rules and their own discipline requirements.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:06 pm to Jake88
What do you want to do Jake besides bitch? You a whining little shite with no suggestions that I have seen for a better America.
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:13 pm to I B Freeman
I wasn't bitching, simply pointing out that you're for handouts. Then I pointed out your mindless idiocy for equating Trump's nationalism with Fascism. Then you threw a tantrum.
Page 3 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News