re: looks like Carson is in

rex, born and raised to a po southern family

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I don't think this post has run its course, I hope that it is only beginning. I challenge Rex and like minded posters as I believe that their thought process is weak and harmful. As a person that has been through a lot of life lessons (like Dr. Carson), I challenge all of those that try to keep people like me down.

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Ok this is fine. Arguing over who was poorer growing up on a message board is just kind of silly, don't you think?

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Arguing over who was poorer growing up on a message board is just kind of silly, don't you think?

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Yes, which is why I didn't do it.

I apologize if you misinterpreted the post. My point is that Rex comes out as the "all knowing" and that he has had it hard. I challenge his assertion that his way is best with examples of others that have been through difficult circumstances and succeeded.

The democrats believe that they have a monopoly on helping the poor. Personally, I went into medicine to help my fellow man regardless of color, religious belief, ability to pay or other. We all need to have compassion for those less fortunate. I just don't believe in setting up systems that take away a humans initiative even if it starts with good intentions. I truly care about others as I would hope someone would care for me. I even care about Rex although he is the antithesis of all that is right and virtuous in this world.

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You think Carson's religious views that drive his political ones are merely idiosyncratic? I

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no, selecting a particular, random single issues/views is idiosyncratic

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I think they're fundamental to the man

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and you voted for a devout Christian (Obama) twice. he may not have that particular crazy view, but i bet you he has plenty of crazy-religious views that you find absurd (and should in turn affect your judgment of his judgment)

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Would his attitudes toward science issues (global warming, etc.) be driven by the same?

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that's funny b/c he's a man of science and you and i are not

that's like the recent liberal gem NdT attacking GMOs this week. he's not qualified to do that (even though i agree with it)...but he is more qualified to do so than i am

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I challenge his assertion that his way is best

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What is my way?

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I even care about Rex although he is the antithesis of all that is right and virtuous in this world.

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You're a sicko, no two ways about it.

Here's a big difference between you and me: I don't believe in allowing people to go hungry or sick or dead or uneducated because they made "bad decisions". Not all bad decisions are willfully bad, and there is a lot of misfortune in this world whether you're willing to admit it or not.

You sound like you're in desperate need of an attaboy and a gold star for how wonderful you perceive yourself to be, but your concepts of "right" and "virtuous" are misanthropic and sociopathic.

Oh thats definitely not an e-mail I ever use, set up strictly for this site. I protect my real e-mail from everybody. My mom keeps asking and I keep changing the subject.

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I protect my real e-mail from everybody.

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Not everybody...

Uh oh

If I've ever crossed you in any way, I apologize

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How can you say Wright does not engage is racially hateful rhetoric?

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How can you say I said something I never said.

I said, twice, Wright was not a prophet and didn't preach "hate whitey".

The clips we all saw were edited clips over a 20 year span. They are as "racially hateful rhetoric" as many of those who post on this board. If I went through the post history of the person accusing Wright of "hate whitey" sermons, I have no doubt that I can put together quite a collection of racially charged rhetoric starting with his posts in this thread.

Until you walk in the shoes of a black man living through the 50s, 60s and 70s in America, then you're in no position to judge.

Remember his "chickens coming home to roost" sermon? That's basically what Ron Paul (and Rand hinted) has been saying for decades. It's basically "you reap what you sow". America has been involved in coups and wars more than any country by far since WWII. Keep fricking with people and they're going to get pissed off and frick back. Neither Wright nor Paul are saying the attacks are right, only that common sense tells you it will come back to bite you.

Yet the righties say Wright hates America yet say Paul is misguided, naive, an ideologue.

But what's the difference? Race.

Because in America, still today, we don't like the "angry black man". It's a similar thing with women. An outspoken woman is a bitch. But if you're a white man, well you're misguided.

If Wright strikes back with what he feels are injustices, and he crosses the line, I can understand given his history. Same is true with Hank Aaron or whomever.

There are white people in his congregation. White people who understand where he's coming from.

Again, I see on a daily basis racially charged posts here and the OT. Posts calling the First Lady a gorilla. The president a boy. Black people see it here and elsewhere and if they get pissed, I understand.

This business of judging the actions of others without considering history and pretending the world started 5 seconds ago is prevalent in the Israeli-Palestinian threads as well.

Things are very rarely black and white, including when speaking of blacks and whites.

I'm gay. And there's not a thread that's started here on the subject of homosexuality where the usual suspects don't chime in with offensive words a hell of a lot worse than Wright has said against whites. Hell I think it was Wright who condemned Obama for his acceptance of gay marriage (I think it was him). But am I going to hate on people because I think they're wrong?

Isn't it Carson who wrote about how PC stifles free speech? And aren't you being PC, in a sense, against Wright?

You're a hypocrite if you give Sterling a pass but not Wright.

If you hate PC, then hate PC.