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re: Looking at the people lining up against Trump on Syria
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:11 pm to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:11 pm to DawgfaninCa
Your argument is absurd.
This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 9:11 pm
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Posted on 12/21/18 at 4:59 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Your argument is absurd.
Meh, in the case of supporting or not supporting Israel, it is black or white.
If you don't support Israel then you support the Palestinians who don't support Israel and who supported the Nazis during WW2.
Either you are part of the solution or part of the problem and I'm not talking about being part of the Final Solution.
If you want to lie down with dogs like the Palestinians then you are going to get up with their fleas.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:07 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:Spoiler Alert: You don't destroy it by increasing funding the way Trump has.
American foreign policy, as it has been practiced by neocon Republicans and interventionist Democrats for the past 40 years, is pure evil. It has placed the interests of the ruling elite over the lives of its soldiers. It has justified the deaths of millions of civilians under the guise of promoting democracy. The only way for this country to get right again is to destroy the MIC.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:21 pm to Nguyener
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You're frickin' nuts.
Boy, you have a lot to learn.
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Care to respond to anything he said specifically?
Sure.
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American foreign policy, as it has been practiced by neocon Republicans and interventionist Democrats for the past 40 years, is pure evil.
ISIS is pure evil.
Saying American foreign policy (which includes fighting ISIS), as it has been practiced by "neocon Republicans" and "interventionist Democrats" for the past 40 years, is pure evil is frickin' nuts.
Posted on 12/21/18 at 5:28 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Saying American foreign policy (which includes fighting ISIS), as it has been practiced by "neocon Republicans" and "interventionist Democrats" for the past 40 years, is pure evil is frickin' nuts.
-Wars of aggression? Check.
-Coups? Check.
-Support for dozens of ruthless dictators? Check.
-High losses of civilian lives? Check.
-High losses of American soldiers lives? Check.
-Lack of transparency? Check.
-Small number of people getting filthy rich off said foreign policy? Check.
There is nothing good or pure about our foreign policy. Do you think the crooks who run this country actually have a conscience?
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:09 am to SCLibertarian
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Saying American foreign policy (which includes fighting ISIS), as it has been practiced by "neocon Republicans" and "interventionist Democrats" for the past 40 years, is pure evil is frickin' nuts.
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-Wars of aggression? Check.
-Coups? Check.
-Support for dozens of ruthless dictators? Check.
-High losses of civilian lives? Check.
-High losses of American soldiers lives? Check.
-Lack of transparency? Check.
-Small number of people getting filthy rich off said foreign policy? Check.
Meh, all of those things happened in countries that were our enemies since the USA was founded as a result of their leaders' foreign policy.
Now I'll ask you directly.
Which is pure evil, ISIS or the USA?
This post was edited on 12/23/18 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/23/18 at 12:34 pm to DawgfaninCa
No, it’s a logical fallacy. And you’re embracing the idea behind bills of attainder, an idea we we expressly rejected in the revolution, and made doubly clear in the constitution.
We, as a people, do not believe in inherited guilt. It’s a tyrannical and un American concept. We do not punish people for the sins of their fathers.
You’re also purposefully ignoring the history of that time. The British stood between the Palistinians and the Zionist during the mandate, trying to keep order. But they leaned towards the Zionist cause. See the Balfour declaration.
So why would the Palestinians support the British? That would be incredibly counterintuitive.
You’re also overlooking the troubling moral issues that’s the state of Israel poses. It is an increasingly theological state, where value is driven exclusively by membership in a ethno-religious tribe. Those outside of that group, and that includes people like you and I, are considered underneath them, which in turn absolves Israel of any obligation to treat us with basic human dignities.
To shoot me, would be a small thing. And no sin. I am goyim.
Such is Israel today.
We, as a people, do not believe in inherited guilt. It’s a tyrannical and un American concept. We do not punish people for the sins of their fathers.
You’re also purposefully ignoring the history of that time. The British stood between the Palistinians and the Zionist during the mandate, trying to keep order. But they leaned towards the Zionist cause. See the Balfour declaration.
So why would the Palestinians support the British? That would be incredibly counterintuitive.
You’re also overlooking the troubling moral issues that’s the state of Israel poses. It is an increasingly theological state, where value is driven exclusively by membership in a ethno-religious tribe. Those outside of that group, and that includes people like you and I, are considered underneath them, which in turn absolves Israel of any obligation to treat us with basic human dignities.
To shoot me, would be a small thing. And no sin. I am goyim.
Such is Israel today.
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