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re: Libs/Dems - what has President Trump done to make your life more miserable
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:28 am to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:28 am to Homesick Tiger
The libs have left the building.
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:31 am to cahoots
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There are winners and losers with every bill. Some people pay more in taxes after the recent tax cut. A lot more without the state tax deduction. It’s hugely punitive on certain people.
If this was the case, then couldn't we look at the benefits gained by the winners and the costs borne by the losers to determine if the policy was overall beneficial or costly?
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:31 am to Homesick Tiger
I'm only considered liberal on here because the average poster thinks Trump is a moderate.
Trump's deregulation of the financial industry will come back to bite us just like it did with Bush.
Greed is not good.
Trump's deregulation of the financial industry will come back to bite us just like it did with Bush.
Greed is not good.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:37 am to cahoots
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Some people pay more in taxes after the recent tax cu
Who?
Posted on 5/11/18 at 10:39 am to texridder
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I'm only considered liberal on here because the average poster thinks Trump is a moderate. Trump's deregulation of the financial industry will come back to bite us just like it did with Bush. Greed is not good.
Democrats called Bush racist for warning of the future sub-prime collapse. Then it collapses and the Dems blame bush. AmazingPosted on 5/11/18 at 10:41 am to Homesick Tiger
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what has President Trump done to make your life more miserable
Winning
Too much winning
Never ending winning
Continuous winning
Unending winning
Winning everywhere
Uninterrupted winning
Winning the big things
Winning the little things
Winning the midsized things
Winning economically
Winning politically
Winning foreign policy
Winning domestic policy
Winning, winning, so much winning!
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:19 pm to Jyrdis
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If this was the case, then couldn't we look at the benefits gained by the winners and the costs borne by the losers to determine if the policy was overall beneficial or costly?
You could, but you are just going to find that covering poorer folks and/or unhealthy folks that otherwise can’t get insurance means covering a more costly risk pool. Of course you can’t market a bill that way. Tell everything, hey, get ready for pay a lot to get more people covered!
The only thing really putting downward pressure on things was the individual mandate, which was ironically the first part to be done away with.
The ACA comes down to whether you think it’s worth it to for those able to pay more to have more fellow Americans covered. It’s not the only way to accomplish that, but the free market is not going to do it either. I understand why people are against it, and I actually favor an altogether different system, but it did accomplish the goal of more Americans having coverage, albeit at a cost in terms of tax dollars and increased premiums
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:31 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Considering all the hatred coming from your side, I'd just like to know how, personally, he has made your life worse than it was before 11/08/16. I'll hang up the keyboard and listen.
Did your life change under obama? Presidents ahve a very low impact on your day to day life. I don't particularly like gorsuch or the ballooning of the debt.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:31 pm to cahoots
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ACA comes down to whether you think it’s worth it to for those able to pay more to have more fellow Americans covered
It's a friecking insurance contract. If the government wants to give health insurance to the uninsurable and the poor, fine. Figure out how to do pay for it and do it. But limiting the freedom to contract for the rest of us is what they decided to go with. Thanks Obama.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:35 pm to BBONDS25
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It's a friecking insurance contract. If the government wants to give health insurance to the uninsurable and the poor, fine. Figure out how to do pay for it and do it. But limiting the freedom to contract for the rest of us is what they decided to go with. Thanks Obama.
I’m with you, but that is ultimately a single-payer Medicaid-style thing. And that was rejected at the time. It would have never passed even if it were cheaper and tightly controlled
Posted on 5/11/18 at 12:36 pm to SDVTiger
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Just look at cappervin this week
VOR and the limey troll are also in the running for THAT poster of the week.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:04 pm to Homesick Tiger
Kicking 37,000 old folks out of nursing and group homes in Louisiana must have had a negative effect on at least the relative of one or two posters here. (See Medicaid)
If they do the same in Wisconsin, I'll tell them to park my 99 year old man in front of the local GOP headquarters and let him die there. (He voted for Trump and Walker, I'm sure.)
Evictions
If they do the same in Wisconsin, I'll tell them to park my 99 year old man in front of the local GOP headquarters and let him die there. (He voted for Trump and Walker, I'm sure.)
Evictions
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:19 pm to BigAppleBucky
Nobody has been evicted. And you are blaming Teumpnfor Edwards threat? Pathetic.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:20 pm to cahoots
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I’m with you, but that is ultimately a single-payer Medicaid-style thing. And that was rejected at the time. It would have never passed even if it were cheaper and tightly controlled
Not single payer. But yes...Medicaid-style. Don't limit what I can do because not everyone can do it. Give those that need a safety net a safety net. If I want a catastrophic policy or a Cadillac policy...the fact those getting insurance for free cannot, should not even be a consideration.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:23 pm to cahoots
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The ACA comes down to whether you think it’s worth it to for those able to pay more to have more fellow Americans covered.
That's a tremendous oversimplification.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:24 pm to texridder
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Trump's deregulation of the financial industry will come back to bite us just like it did with Bush.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:25 pm to cahoots
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The ACA comes down to whether you think it’s worth it to for those able to pay more to have more fellow Americans covered
or, in other words, if you think it's fair to have people who make better choices on average pay more to subsidize the bad choices of those who make many multitudes more mistakes on average
i pay over $600/month for health insurance. what did i do wrong to justify that punishment?
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:25 pm to BBONDS25
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Democrats called Bush racist for warning of the future sub-prime collapse. Then it collapses and the Dems blame bush.
Bush deregulated Wall Street and appointed a Wall Streeter as Chairman of the SEC. Wall Street sold crap to Freedie and Fannie.
Bush deserves all the blame he can get.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:26 pm to texridder
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Bush deregulated Wall Street and appointed a Wall Streeter as Chairman of the SEC. Wall Street sold crap to Freedie and Fannie.
Bush deserves all the blame he can get.
Sorry baw it started with Clinton so just stop
Posted on 5/11/18 at 1:27 pm to Homesick Tiger
Please go ask this on reddit. That will be worth monitoring.
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