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Let's have a serious talk about history and sex.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:54 pm
First, you can not hold a person accountable for past actions when the laws and social acceptable things change.
You can not decide that all drivers can no longer drive a red car and apply that retro actively.
Having said that, the history of this nation is what it is and what was acceptable in 1700s may not be today.
For example, age of consent. Today, its 16 -18 depending on the state.
In the 1800s, it was.... 10-16. That is not a typo. TEN... In fact, it was 10 or 12 in MOST states except for Delaware. It was..... (sit down...) SEVEN.
As to men being with younger women. This happened all overbthe USA. Why??? WAR.
Starting with the civil war, the south lost 650,000 men aged in the teens through 20s. The South was devastated financially. That set the stage for younger women marrying older men. President Cleveland is an example of that. Married a 22 year old and he was 27 years older.
Less than 60s latter. WWI. 30 years later.... WWII. All men from 18 to 30 and we lost a lot.
You can not decide that all drivers can no longer drive a red car and apply that retro actively.
Having said that, the history of this nation is what it is and what was acceptable in 1700s may not be today.
For example, age of consent. Today, its 16 -18 depending on the state.
In the 1800s, it was.... 10-16. That is not a typo. TEN... In fact, it was 10 or 12 in MOST states except for Delaware. It was..... (sit down...) SEVEN.
As to men being with younger women. This happened all overbthe USA. Why??? WAR.
Starting with the civil war, the south lost 650,000 men aged in the teens through 20s. The South was devastated financially. That set the stage for younger women marrying older men. President Cleveland is an example of that. Married a 22 year old and he was 27 years older.
Less than 60s latter. WWI. 30 years later.... WWII. All men from 18 to 30 and we lost a lot.
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Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:55 pm to Jjdoc
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In the 1800s, it was.... 10-16. That is not a typo. TEN... In fact, it was 10 or 12 in MOST states except for Delaware. It was..... (sit down...) SEVEN.
So I guess the Muslims are right when they say they had a hand in the founding of America.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 10:59 pm to Jjdoc
I agree with you jjdoc.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:00 pm to Jjdoc
Cool. Call Roy Moore when your daughter turns 10.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:03 pm to Jjdoc
What about laws that were under prosecuted like sexual assault?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:05 pm to Jjdoc
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Let's have a serious talk about history and sex. by Jjdoc
First, you can not hold a person accountable for past actions when the laws and social acceptable things change.
You can not decide that all drivers can no longer drive a red car and apply that retro actively.
Having said that, the history of this nation is what it is and what was acceptable in 1700s may not be today.
For example, age of consent. Today, its 16 -18 depending on the state.
So if I stole your car but you didn't say anything immediately and then 20 years later were able to prove it or at least come forward about it and I was running for an elected position do you think it is any less of a crime?
It is both sad and entertaining to watch right-wingers eat their own morals based on getting elected official that they feel represents them in there. Keep moving those goal posts buddy
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:13 pm to Halftrack
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. Call Roy Moore when your daughter turns 10.
Dont be dimwitted.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:15 pm to Jjdoc
It is interesting watching them paint themselves into a corner.
First it was: no banging 14 year olds! This is understandable, in America it isn't legal, although it is legal in most of Europe. I don't know ow how they feel about it.
Then when the 14 year old girl's story fell apart it switched to: no banging 16-17 year olds! This is somewhat understandable since about 10 states still have an 18 limit and federal law uses 18 for pornography, lots of people think 18 is the magic number.
Then when people realized it is perfect legal to have sex with 16-18 year olds depending on the state it turn to: no banging teenagers 16-19 even if legal because it is CREEPY!
My guess is these are either dudes who married the first girl they had sex with and have no idea what it is like to bang a young fit college freshman or these are dudes who have daughters and they can't have this conversation without imagining some guy plowing their little princess when she is of legal age.
Understandable, but don't force your personal issues on the rest of us.
First it was: no banging 14 year olds! This is understandable, in America it isn't legal, although it is legal in most of Europe. I don't know ow how they feel about it.
Then when the 14 year old girl's story fell apart it switched to: no banging 16-17 year olds! This is somewhat understandable since about 10 states still have an 18 limit and federal law uses 18 for pornography, lots of people think 18 is the magic number.
Then when people realized it is perfect legal to have sex with 16-18 year olds depending on the state it turn to: no banging teenagers 16-19 even if legal because it is CREEPY!
My guess is these are either dudes who married the first girl they had sex with and have no idea what it is like to bang a young fit college freshman or these are dudes who have daughters and they can't have this conversation without imagining some guy plowing their little princess when she is of legal age.
Understandable, but don't force your personal issues on the rest of us.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:16 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:WTF does that even mean?
What about laws that were under prosecuted like sexual assault?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:16 pm to Jjdoc
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First, you can not hold a person accountable for past actions when the laws and social acceptable things change.
Confederate, Columbus, and historical figures who owned slaves statues say hi, welcome to the party
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:17 pm to KosmoCramer
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What about laws that were under prosecuted like sexual assault?
Was not talking sexual assault.
However, that standard has changed. You can be accused of sexual assault and the law say no.... thats not... nut you still be fired and ruined.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:19 pm to Jjdoc
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age of consent
quote:That gives a creepy new meaning to Delaware's motto...The First State
In fact, it was 10 or 12 in MOST states except for Delaware. It was..... (sit down...) SEVEN.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 12:01 am
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:19 pm to Ebbandflow
Im not even sure you are capable of staying on topic. This thread is not about sexual assault.
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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WTF does that even mean?
Crimes in the code that weren't prosecuted for a variety of reasons?
Posted on 11/16/17 at 11:28 pm to Jjdoc
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Im not even sure you are capable of staying on topic. This thread is not about sexual assault.
You're right. I went a little over the top on this one. I just assumed that the proximity of this to all the accusations about more and the fact that you're usually spewing a bunch of right-wing garbage to mean this was about creating acceptance for creepy old-timers like Moore
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