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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:01 am to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:01 am to
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And China is waiting for the inevitable meltdown so they can take what they want in Siberia.


Then why is China playing a huge role in keeping Russia in the fight? Without China and.what they contribute Russia would have some major problems. If this theory was correct you would think that China would play no role so that Russia would meltdown.

More delusion from the Ex OT Ukraine Warriors.

This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by singittomenafogimp
Member since Sep 2025
319 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:04 am to
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Do you not know the difference between "volunteers" joining the military in order to get paid a sign-up bonus and "conscriptions" which is an involuntary induction into the military? Russia is using both processes these days.

This is the second time in the last few pages that you've confirmed your ignorance.


You're a low IQ liar, i.e. typical shitlib. Russia has a mandatory draft like Israel, but those people aren't used on the frontlines as far as anyone reported. Try and fail again.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135117 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:12 am to
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Ukrainians are dumb as shite
And you learned this by living and working among Ukrainians in Ukraine??

I found Ukrainians to be very sharp, hardworking people who were extremely willing to learn western professional practices and concepts during the several months I lived in Ukraine while working in Kiev, Lviv and Odessa.

And they were passionate in their desire to not be made second class citizens in their own country ever again by a Russian occupation.

You're the one who is "dumb as shite."
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16272 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:15 am to
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Then why is China playing a huge role in keeping Russia in the fight? Without China and.what they contribute Russia would have some major problems. If this theory was correct you would think that China would play no role so that Russia would meltdown.


Russia is using up its eastern male population as meat on the front. China gets to watch tactics and make money.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135117 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:19 am to
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but those people aren't used on the frontlines as far as anyone reported
Do you mean except for the parents of Russian conscripts who have received a KIA notice about their sons?

Even some Russian POWs have said they were mislead about the Russian military's promise that "no conscripts" would be sent to fight in Ukraine.

There have been numerous reports about those things in the almost FOUR years Russia has been plodding through this war.

If you don't know about that then you are just being willfully ignorant. And after today's posts by you, I am NOT surprised about that.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2328 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:20 am to
I've seen some people get wildly upset when they get told that the Russian military is crap and incompetent but this guy takes it to a whole other level. Barron doesn't even get this upset
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8485 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:20 am to
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Then why is China playing a huge role in keeping Russia in the fight? Without China and.what they contribute Russia would have some major problems. If this theory was correct you would think that China would play no role so that Russia would meltdown.



Even Russia knows the best piece of land is the one you can use/control without actually invading. That is the arrangement they had for Crimea pre-2014.

The loss of that access/control is ultimately the cause of this entire war. At least part of the issue for Russia between 2014 and 2022 and all of the discussion on Ukraine becoming a NATO member ultimately goes back to this... what happens if someone joins NATO and another country has already occupied part of it beforehand? That gives Ukraine a LOT more flexibility in terms of taking Crimea back by force. Russia would be fighting with a hand tied behind its back.

Not to mention that they wouldn't have had access to the "land bridge" that they now control that goes straight to Crimea. Look at the layout of the front.... how it currently looks isn't some huge coincidence. They positioned themselves in such a way that they get at least part of what they want regardless of if they take another acre of land or not.

That makes the failed summer counteroffensive even more puzzling. The focus should have been on Crimea.

"Its Crimea, stupid".
Posted by singittomenafogimp
Member since Sep 2025
319 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:25 am to
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And you learned this by living and working among Ukrainians in Ukraine??

I found Ukrainians to be very sharp, hardworking people who were extremely willing to learn western professional practices and concepts during the several months I lived in Ukraine while working in Kiev, Lviv and Odessa.

And they were passionate in their desire to not be made second class citizens in their own country ever again by a Russian occupation.

You're the one who is "dumb as shite."


LOL, another neoboomer upset I insulted the glorious Ukros.

There are Ukrainians living in US, all over US. They're dumb as shite, most vote Democrat, and most of the work they do is construction manual labor.

There was probably some reason they were always 2nd class citizens. Funny how most black or most blacks who haven't made it in US still say they're 2nd class citizens. You catching the drift here...
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8485 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:26 am to
Ukraine has the lowest IQ in Europe going by this dataset:

LINK

Though I would wager that the eastern, more Russian bits are actually the parts that bring it down.

There are some really talented software devs from Kyiv that do great work that I use personally.

Data is also apparently from this year which would obviously make it flawed.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 9:27 am
Posted by singittomenafogimp
Member since Sep 2025
319 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:28 am to
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I've seen some people get wildly upset when they get told that the Russian military is crap and incompetent but this guy takes it to a whole other level. Barron doesn't even get this upset


It's funny watching you playing neutral while being a shitty little Ukro nutswinger.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8485 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:29 am to
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It's funny watching you playing neutral while being a shitty little Ukro nutswinger.



Aren't you trying to play neutral, too?
Posted by singittomenafogimp
Member since Sep 2025
319 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:31 am to
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Ukraine has the lowest IQ in Europe going by this dataset:

LINK

Though I would wager that the eastern, more Russian bits are actually the parts that bring it down.

There are some really talented software devs from Kyiv that do great work that I use personally.

Data is also apparently from this year which would obviously make it flawed.


Ukraine and Mexico being same sub-average IQ seems about right. 95.
I'm a little surprised to see Iran at over 100, but perhaps decades of worrying being invaded sharpened them up.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2328 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:31 am to
I mean it's hard to argue that the Russian military isn't near about as powerful and their equipment isn't near about as advanced as people like you like to claim it is.
Posted by singittomenafogimp
Member since Sep 2025
319 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:34 am to
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Aren't you trying to play neutral, too?


frick no, I'm firmly on team Putin on this plus I hate cringe coming out of Ukraine and those self-identifying Urkainans.

I also think Putin's move in Syria were the correct ones and now you got a fricking ISIS frick ruling there who literally slaughtered and filmed 100s if not 1000s of Syrian christians. And it's all backed by Israelis.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8485 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:38 am to
Well at least you're honest about it
Posted by singittomenafogimp
Member since Sep 2025
319 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:38 am to
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I mean it's hard to argue that the Russian military isn't near about as powerful and their equipment isn't near about as advanced as people like you like to claim it is.


They're outproducing all of NATO, so yeah. They also have the best hypersonic missiles on the planet that nobody can intercept. Plus they make and design great affordable shite that works reliably, which is critical in a protracted conflicts.

If you took the bitter Ukro cuck out your mouth, you might see that militarily Russia is the proverbial bear you don't frick with. Look at it, feed it an apple even, but don't poke it with a stick.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
135117 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:40 am to
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another neoboomer upset I insulted the glorious Ukros.
Nobody is upset, Putin-Bro. I'm just challenging your ignorant opinions.

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most of the work they do is construction manual labor.
What takes more skill and more "manual labor," construction work or mowing grass for a living?

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There was probably some reason they were always 2nd class citizens.
Yeah, they were vastly outnumbered and didn't fight back enough, until now. And here we now see "poor, ignorant Ukrainians" fighting the mighty Russian military to a standstill for almost 4 years.

And four years is just the beginning compared to how long partisans in western Ukraine (like in Lviv) fought a guerilla war against the Soviets for almost 10 years after the end of World War 2.

There's a beautiful monument in Lviv honoring the leader of those partisans.



Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4733 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:41 am to
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And China is waiting for the inevitable meltdown so they can take what they want in Siberia.
quote:

Then why is China playing a huge role in keeping Russia in the fight? Without China and.what they contribute Russia would have some major problems. If this theory was correct you would think that China would play no role so that Russia would meltdown.

Patience.

If the Chinese have the longest term of forward planning in the world - and they do;

And if they want the land that was taken from them by the Russians in the 18th and 19th Centuries - and they do;

And if they need fresh water for northern China - and they do;

And if they want all the other resources stolen from them by the Russians - and they do;

And if the Chinese make bank from their arms trade with Moscow - and they do;

then it would make sense that the Chinese wait and take their land back from a completely exhausted and defeated Russia - and it does.

Russia's not there quite yet, thus the continued Chinese support. But when this war is over with, there will numerous name changes in Siberia.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8485 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:46 am to
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hey're outproducing all of NATO, so yeah. They also have the best hypersonic missiles on the planet that nobody can intercept. Plus they make and design great affordable shite that works reliably, which is critical in a protracted conflicts.

If you took the bitter Ukro cuck out your mouth, you might see that militarily Russia is the proverbial bear you don't frick with. Look at it, feed it an apple even, but don't poke it with a stick.


All of these advantages, but they've been stuck in the mud for 4 years.

I am firmly in the camp that Russia will eventually outlast Ukraine. I also think at least some of the "Russia's military is inept" talk should be more focused on "Drones have changed how we conduct warfare and mitigate advantages like raw numbers". But Russia has not been overly effective either. If they win it will really only be because of numbers in the end.

Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2328 posts
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:49 am to
Out producing NATO while in the middle of a war isn't that big of a flex. They are in a war I would expect them to out-produce countries that aren't. Russians are having loads of problems with their hypersonic missiles, one being accuracy also some of these have been intercepted over Ukraine by Patriot systems. If anything China has the best hypersonic missiles. Yes, they make cheap affordable systems. The T-72 is very affordable. It can also be taken out by the gun on a Bradley which isn't a great look for a MBT. If Russia was the bear you say it is it wouldn't be taking them 4 years to take a portion of land from Ukraine. Also they would've established air superiority over Ukraine a long time ago.
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