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re: Knowing what you know now, how did Floyd die?
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:53 pm to narddogg81
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:53 pm to narddogg81
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norfentanyl is inactive you dummy, its entirely meaningless with respect to intoxication,
Retard, the presence of 5.6ng/ml indicates he had already metabolized part of a larger dose. You get norfentanyl from your body breaking down fentanyl
lmao youre a joke. if he metabilized portions of his dose that portion is being inactivated. It suggests that a higher concentration he had earlier wasn't fatal. Or is your argument that Fentanyl becomes more fatal with less of it circulating? Similar to alcohol a .2 BAC is more dangerous than .1 because you metabolized and inactivated the alcohol.
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how many of those had meth and THC in their system, as well as severe heart disease?
many of them in fact. maybe try reading before spouting off. He had less than 1/2 OD fatality levels even in the presence of polysubstance.
besides you show your idiocy even more... lmao you think hes THC overdosing to death, even tho his levels would pass routine employment screens, and the amount of meth he had was .001% of median recreational users. somehow your posts are more and more idiotic.
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Posted on 8/18/20 at 3:31 pm to ApexTiger
Undiagnosed covid which caused him to have a cardiac arrest brought on by high levels of narcotics in his system. RIP
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:05 pm to AMS
If norfentanyl is inactive then why does the DEA classify it as a Schedule II controlled substance?
Also, is Floyd foaming at the mouth while he’s laying on the ground?? Do people foam at the mouth when they’re being asphyxiated/choked/neck compression?
What about petechiae? Do the deceased always have petechial hemorrhaging if they’ve been asphyxiates?
Also, is Floyd foaming at the mouth while he’s laying on the ground?? Do people foam at the mouth when they’re being asphyxiated/choked/neck compression?
What about petechiae? Do the deceased always have petechial hemorrhaging if they’ve been asphyxiates?
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:08 pm to ApexTiger
O D .
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:11 pm to GreenRockTiger
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If norfentanyl is inactive then why does the DEA classify it as a Schedule II controlled substance?
idk what to tell you. look up norfentanyl...its inactive
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Also, is Floyd foaming at the mouth while he’s laying on the ground?? Do people foam at the mouth when they’re being asphyxiated/choked/neck compression?
its possible. But they dont do this from fentanyl ODs lmao
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What about petechiae? Do the deceased always have petechial hemorrhaging if they’ve been asphyxiates?
nope. 1/5 of asphyxiations dont show this.
now ask why 2 coroners ruled the death was homicidal in nature why wasnt it determined accidental if it were an OD? bc it wasnt an OD and was a homicide.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:35 pm to narddogg81
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Be sure to go burn something down when that happens in honor of Saint Floyd
This is Keith Ellison we are talking about too. I certainly would not discount the possibility that an acquittal was anticipated by this progtard tool. Ellison is as vicious a street hustler as exists in politics: like all progressives, Ellison views our court system as a means to achieve a political agenda, not as means to achieve justice.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:43 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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I certainly would not discount the possibility that an acquittal was anticipated by this progtard tool
There is plenty for the cop's lawyers to work with to
sow the seeds of reasonable doubt.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:53 pm to AMS
So is norfentanyl a by-product of the oxidation of fentanyl? In other words - had there been more fentanyl in his system previously?
Coroners are political - so I don’t really give a damn what they ‘say’. People (including doctors) will say just about anything for fame or money, or not say something in order to keep their job.
So 80% of asphyxiation deaths show petechial hemorrhaging but lo and behold Floyd’s doesn’t.
Coroners are political - so I don’t really give a damn what they ‘say’. People (including doctors) will say just about anything for fame or money, or not say something in order to keep their job.
So 80% of asphyxiation deaths show petechial hemorrhaging but lo and behold Floyd’s doesn’t.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:56 pm to ApexTiger
combination of both...seriously how the frick do you keep your knee on a man's neck for that long of a period when he's fricking telling you he can't breathe? There were 4 of you, he's on the ground and he was cuffed...he wasn't going anywhere...
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:13 pm to Capstone2017
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if the drugs caused an overdose than one of the two pathologists would have put that. Where are you people getting this misinformation? seriously try and throw out the politics, would you still doubt it was a homicide then?
If that toxic combination of drugs wasn’t present in Floyd’s bloodstream, do you believe his heart would have stopped?
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:18 pm to LSURulzSEC
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combination of both...seriously how the frick do you keep your knee on a man's neck for that long of a period when he's fricking telling you he can't breathe?
Exactly.
This is not an either/or equation.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:19 pm to GreenRockTiger
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So is norfentanyl a by-product of the oxidation of fentanyl? In other words - had there been more fentanyl in his system previously?
basically yes. but that suggests he was alive and going on with his shenanigans at higher concentrations of fentanyl than when he was killed by homicide. This is inconsistent with a fentanyl OD death. fentanyl OD deaths are more like falling asleep and stopping breathing, not giving 3 police a tough time.
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Coroners are political - so I don’t really give a damn what they ‘say’. People (including doctors) will say just about anything for fame or money, or not say something in order to keep their job.
IDK what to tell you if you will just discredit 2 unrelated experts putting their name on a lie of a legal document like that. They could lose their jobs or go to jail for doing what you suggest.
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So 80% of asphyxiation deaths show petechial hemorrhaging but lo and behold Floyd’s doesn’t.
78%, but yea thats what appears to have occurred. if you think the coroners would lie about homicide, why wouldnt either of them lie about this? plus if he ODd on fentanyl he would have asphyxiated too, so if you misguidedly believe he ODd on fentanyl what is your excuse for no petechial hemorrhaging? lo and behold indeed, floyd appears to be one of five either way you cut it.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:20 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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If that toxic combination of drugs wasn’t present in Floyd’s bloodstream, do you believe his heart would have stopped?
The heart stops when you are smothered to death.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 5:39 pm to ApexTiger
Stupidity. He died from stupidity.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:22 pm to AMS
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The heart stops when you are smothered to death.
I don't think you addressed my question yesterday about Floyd saying he couldn't breathe, about 15 times before the knee. I believe he said he was going to die before he got to the ground...
what is your position on this evidence? Try to separate yourself from the "experts"...because the experts didn't get the privilege of all this other evidence we have showing that Floyd was not acting normal for a guy who had been arrested plenty of times in his short life
Floyd also said he was claustrophobic -yet was in a smaller car as the driver, with other people, 2 strangers no less...but the cop car freaked him out...
was he playing the police, or was he really melting out? The girlfriend said "he is always a little messed up in the head" ( I took that to mean he is a regular user of drugs)
Floyd at one point said he couldn't feel his face
then he said "everything hurts" (which is it?)
He begged to lie down, the officers went along with it
but your position is with the expert coroners report that other humans beings played a role in his death "homicide"
Other than one knee, we have no other evidence to suggest the officers are the reason for his death.
If the knee is the reason we have "homicide", then you have to prove it in court.
How much pressure was being applied to his neck? Was it below recreational rough housing? Or above recreational rough house?
what is the threshold for people on a mix of drugs who weigh about 200 lbs and resisting arrest with their arms behind their back?
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:37 pm to TrueTiger
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There is plenty for the cop's lawyers to work with to
sow the seeds of reasonable doubt.
You got the right. This is by no means a slam-dunk case. A charge of murder requires proving intent.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:44 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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A charge of murder requires proving intent.
Nah, not in Minnesota at least.
Posted on 8/18/20 at 7:03 pm to AMS
Why two "experts" (using that term loosely) called it a homicide ... how am I supposed to know? Maybe they were using the general definition for the word. (a homicide may result from accidental, reckless, or negligent acts even if there is no intent to cause harm.) For all I know they might all be on the take. Plenty of coroners have been put in jail/lost their jobs for less.
I don't know what GF died from ... that's why I am asking questions. Before today, when I started looking things up, I didn't even know what fentanyl really was. There's all different types and who knows what kind he had in his system. Then mixed with all of the other crap he had, and bad choices in his life ... he's now dead.
And our country has to suffer for it because people were bored.
Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:16 pm to AMS
Posted on 8/25/20 at 8:17 pm to AMS
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The heart stops when you are smothered to death.
The heart can also stop from a toxic cocktail of drugs.
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