re: Just curious as to who believes in aliens/UFOs coverup

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And I'm allowing you to engage me because the more you spew your biased close-minded nonsense, the more it is exposed to everyone who reads it.

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that's a significant level of delusion you have there

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Your biased close-minded nonsense is exposed to everyone even if they refuse to admit or accept it.

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Oh. And going over every frame of your own evidence isn't exactly science dumbass

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Meh, examining every frame of the 3 videos to determine what data is contained in them is part of the scientific process, Einstein.

Jumping to a conclusion before first examining every frame of the 3 videos to determine what data is contained in them is not part of the scientific process. It is something only a biased, close-minded skeptical pseudo-scientist does.

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And yes I insult you because no matter how slick You Think You Are people aren't stupid. They can tell when you're avoiding inconvenient points in the posts above.

If you're going to avoid inconvenient points expect to be ridiculed and insulted because it's all you deserve

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You insult my brother and me because we are eyewitnesses who dare to tell the skeptics and the so-called scientific community that they are wrong when they vehemently assert that sea serpents don't exist and they can't dispute our testimony and evidence so they have to resort to insulting us by calling us liars
and/or hoaxers.

I don't think I'm slick. All I think is that I just have to tell the truth which is what I am doing.

The truth reputes all of your invalid points.

I expect to be ridiculed and insulted by biased close-minded skeptics and the so-called scientific community because all of you are the ones who can't handle the truth since it is embarrassing for all of you to be the ones who are wrong about the existence of sea serpents after all of you opened your big mouths and vehemently asserted that sea serpents don't exist.

LOL

Holy shite.

Did you know that there are dozens of webcams focused on SF Bay 24/7

ROFLMAO

So much for this doofus

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You insult my brother and me because we are eyewitnesses who dare to tell the skepti

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We insult you because you are either stupid or have figured out how to make a buck on this stupidity

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Are you claiming that you believe there isn't even a remote possibility that sea serpents might exist?

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Nope.

The ocean is deep as frick. There's tons of shite we haven't found

But. None of it is exceptionally large creatures that hang near shorelines in populated areas often enough to be seen multiple times to be seen by the same person you fricking tard.

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So now you are the one who claims to know how these animals would act if they do exist.

The only reason my brother and I have been able to see one of the animals more than one time is because we bothered to get our asses up before dawn, drive 8 miles to get to the location where we had our first sighting and did it over and over for many years until we were lucky again to be in the right place at the right time and looking in the right direction.

Besides, if someone doesn't know or believe these animals exist then they aren't going to spend the time and energy to go look for them.

If they do happen to be lucky enough to see one of the animals then they may not realize what they are looking at unless the animal exposes itself in a manner that forces them to realize what they are looking at.

That is exactly what happened to my brother and me when we had our first close definitive sighting.

When we first saw the animal swimming with its head just above the surface of the water towards a group of sea lions, we both thought it was just another sea lion swimming towards the other sea lions.

It wasn't until the animal got close to the group of sea lions and it raised its head and upper portion of its body straight up 10 feet out of the water that we both realized it wasn't a sea lion but that it was some kind of unknown marine animal, you fricking dufus.

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All you biased close-minded skeptics can do is call my brother and me liars 

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I'm observing that your facts as presented are a statistical impossibility.

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There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

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You may well be delusional enough to believe it so, I'm not calling you a liar.

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That's the other insult you biased close-minded skeptics call my brother and me because you can't handle the truth that sea serpents exist.

You also resort to calling us crazy.

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We said the animals occasionally come into SF Bay through the Golden Gate which is very near where all of our sightings occurred

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Oh. Now you're asserting you know how often he visits? What do you base that on genius?

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At least we aren't the one asserting what the animal occasionally does even though we have never seen the animal like you did.

After we had our first sighting on February 5, 1985, my brother and I thought that we couldn't be sooooo lucky that we would see the animal the only time it entered SF Bay so we decided to stake out the location almost every morning around dawn during the winter months from November through March.

Based on that logic, we were able to have more sightings of the animal from 1985-1987.

After that, we had to spend all of our time keeping our small business afloat so we stopped looking for the animal on a regular basis during the winter months.

It was not until 18 years later on January 26, 2004 that we were lucky and had another sighting which is the sighting that we got a 3 1/2 minute video of.

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We also explained to you and others that almost all of our sightings were just around dawn when there are very few people in the area where we had the sightings

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Dawn is a common time for people to be near or even on the water. Nice try. Less =/= none. Over times, shite tons of people have been in that area. You suck at stats.

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Meh, there may be a few joggers and some people walking their dogs in the Crissy Fields area around dawn where we had most of our sightings but there wasn't anyone in the immediate area when we had our February 5, 1985 sighting as well as when we had all of our other sightings except for one sighting.

The morning Bill ran in the rain along the shoreline and took the first 4 photos of one of the animals as it swam along Stone Tower Point, a jogger was running past Bill in the opposite direction the animal was swimming as Bill was going to take a photo.

Bill later told me he was going to stop the jogger to tell him to stop and look out in the water but he decided if he did that then the jogger probably wouldn't stop anyway and he would lose an opportunity to get a photo of the animal which very likely would be the only chance he would ever have to photograph the animal.

So Bill decided not to stop the jogger and took the photo instead.

As far as boats being in the area, there are very few boats hanging out in that area of the SF Bay at that time of the day unless there are fish in the area. Most boats are going out to the ocean or coming back from the ocean as can be seen in all of our videos.

There were no boats in the area during our first video, two small boats further out in the bay during our second video and during our third video there were only one sailboat very far away from the animal and one motorboat that came close to the animal as it was speeding out towards the Golden Gate. As it passed by the animal, the animal went underwater and didn't surface again.

So your assertion that there are a lot of people in that area of the SF Bay at that time of day is pure bullshite!

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And the assertion that since everyone now has a cellphone with a video camera is proof that the animal doesn't exist because if it did exist then there would be more "decent" videos of it is absurd.
Actually. It's a pretty airtight observation.

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Like i said. You either suck at stats or you're a dishonest rube.

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You conveniently left out the third option which is that we are telling the truth and we did see a sea serpent on several occasions even if your stats say we shouldn't be the only ones seeing them.

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You insult my brother and me because we are eyewitnesses who dare to tell the skepti

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We insult you because you are either stupid or have figured out how to make a buck on this stupidity

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Meh, all you dumb frick biased close-minded skeptics can do is say my brother and I are stupid and/or trying to make a buck off of our claimed sightings.

After all, it's the last straw you have to grasp onto so you can keep your false belief that sea serpents don't exist.

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Probability isn't invalid you moron

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Probability doesn't mean it can't happen.

After all, eventually someone beats the odds and wins the Mega Lottery.

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n size and
technology - Boy, were they big! and menacing!
No, there is no question of a space station.

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I've seen the video of them discussing this, both of those guys are of high character and their claims just can't be dismissed out of hand.

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After all, eventually someone beats the odds and wins the Mega Lottery

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my God. It's worse than i thought

You're a compete moron

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insulted people with a higher intellect than you or your brother, and wonder why they don't take it seriously.

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You've made this comment more than once in this forum as if it's a thing. You act like there are certified geniuses running around here and that they're above reproach. Nobody's better than anyone else here. If you have to tell people that you're an intellectual you're probably not much of an intellectual. The idea that there is an hierarchy governed by intellect here is asinine. If people had to start posting their actual IQ here I guarantee that there would be some hurt feelings.

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Again, ZERO evidence that life exists elsewhere other than originating from Earth. ALH 84001 proves nothing. Do the research.

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you said evidence (data that helps support a hypotheses.
witness testimony despite being unreliable is considered evidence).. not proof. ALH84001 has not ever been proven to contain fossilized life but the debate continues

some more evidence? best we can tell life sprung up around the end of the heavy bombardment period of earth 3.8-4 billion years ago. frequent impacts with comets and asteroids. bacterial spores can remain dormant for millions of years.

what evidence do you have that life originated on earth? it's a tricky thing to prove anywhere.