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re: Jury rules against dad trying to save his 7-year-old from gender ‘transition’

Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89047 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:11 pm to
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I am slowly coming to the conclusion that you are simply incapable of being honest.


Judas frickING priest.

Coming from ANYBODY but you.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:11 pm to
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Which seems to be the course of action that was being recommended by the vast majority of the mothers experts
Um. False

By your own admission, they STILL are targeting an age at prepubescence.

And, we're still just flat ignoring that SHE IS frickING ABUSING THE CHILD by continuing to tell him he's a girl in the meantime.

Since you like analogies so much.

If I started at age 3 telling my daughter that the only person she should ever frick...…….is me...……...with an eye toward manipulating her into LETTING me when she's 16...…………

Well, you figure it out
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:12 pm to
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This is worth posting again. Do you want to engage me on medical science, Hank?
Really? I haven’t seen you post anything once that was worth posting this entire thread, much less twice.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89047 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:13 pm to
I’m done with this thread.

I knew Hank was a real piece of work. But frick...
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:14 pm to
Lol. Your stuff is so worthy that you created Tani to carry water for you.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:14 pm to
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I knew Hank was a real piece of work. But frick...


Yeah

I've waffled back and forth trying to treat Hank decently but, shite like this just brings you back to reality.

He's just a polished up version of texridder
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:15 pm to
He is not polished
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:15 pm to
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Then why are you going with a "distinct minority" of said experts?
why do you keep lying? It’s not like you’re in capable of reading

I have stated repeatedly but I would not agree with the notion of administering puberty blocking medications or hormones at this point in the child’s life. End of story. Not remotely ambiguous.

I have also said that that should be a medical decision for the parents, not a matter for dictation by the state. You feel otherwise. That is fine. You are more authoritarian than I am. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:18 pm to
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why do you keep lying? It’s not like you’re in capable of reading I have stated repeatedly but I would not agree with the notion of administering puberty blocking medications or hormones at this point in the child’s life. End of story. Not remotely ambiguous.

Guess what.

That "distinct minority" number you cited...…….applies to ANY prepubescent age.

But, you knew that already.

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I have also said that that should be a medical decision for the parents, not a matter for dictation by the state
You don't even believe this. If parents could find some doctor to give a 10 year old a boob job, you know as well as I do that every court in the nation would over rule them.

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You are more authoritarian than I am.
Pathetic. Back to this rank stupidity
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:18 pm to
But, to try again

Since you like analogies so much.

If I started at age 3 telling my daughter that the only person she should ever frick...…….is me...……...with an eye toward manipulating her into LETTING me when she's 16...…………

Well, you figure it out
Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:19 pm to
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You are more authoritarian than I am.


It is okay for the government to legislate the criminality of abusing a child.

This is not an authoritarian concept.

You continue to be intellectually evasive and dishonest.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:19 pm to
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You are more authoritarian than I am.
It's cute how he tries to pretend opposing child abuse = "authoritarian"

The liberal mind in a nutshell right there.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:20 pm to
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It's cute how he tries to pretend opposing child abuse = "authoritarian" The liberal mind in a nutshell right there.


The only way opposing child abuse is "more authoritarian" than someone else is if the other person is an anarchist.

And just LOL. Hank ain't no anarchist.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:24 pm to
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If parents could find some doctor to give a 10 year old a boob job, you know as well as I do that every court in the nation would over rule them.
yes! I have agreed with that, repeatedly.

It’s almost like you think you’re gaining some sort of ground by repeating the same thing again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

The difference lies in actually looking at the facts and (in the case of gender reassignment) the theory.

There is no factual or theoretical benefit to strapping double D silicon onto an 11-year-old.

On the other hand, puberty blocking hormones have the potential of preventing a transgender male from physically developing into a big muscular individual who will look completely out of place as a woman upon reaching adulthood. yes, that point is still largely theoretical, because the science has not been around very long. We will never know the answer, unless a few people try it. Is it possible that the answers will not support the hypothesis? Of course.

AsI have said several dozen times, giving people the freedom to make their own decisions will sometimes result in bad decisions or ultimately in sub-optimal long-term outcomes. I can live with that.

Parents screw up their kids in thousands of ways every day. Another price of a certain amount of individual freedom.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:24 pm to
Well, this thread looks fun.

Let me go make a bag...maybe two.

Posted by DeusVultMachina
Member since Jul 2017
4245 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:26 pm to
My prediction of 13 pages ago has come to pass.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:27 pm to
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It's cute how he tries to pretend opposing child abuse = "authoritarian"
you start from the premise that gender reassignment equates to child abuse, just like abortion opponents start from the premise that abortion is murder. Just like them, you think all the evidence supports your position. Amazingly, not all the evidence supports your position .. or theirs.

It all comes down to matters of opinion. Or different methods of analysis.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 5:28 pm
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:29 pm to
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you start from the premise that gender reassignment equates to child abuse, just like abortion opponents start from the premise that abortion is murder. Just like them, you think all the evidence supports your position. Amazingly, not all the evidence supports your position .. or theirs.

It all comes down to matters of opinion. Or different methods of analysis.



They are going to chemically castrate a fricking 7 year old.

God damn
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:30 pm to
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yes! I have agreed with that, repeatedly.
I know you have

Which makes your vacillation elsewhere all the more absurd

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There is no factual or theoretical benefit to strapping double D silicon onto an 11-year-old.

There is AT LEAST as much evidence it could help her self esteem as there is for telling a prepubescent boy he's a girl from the age of 3 with an eye towards castrating him before puberty.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 5:32 pm to
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n" you start from the premise that gender reassignment equates to child abuse


You like analogies

If I start telling my daughter at age 3 that the only person she should EVER frick is me...…..with an eye towards manipulating her into LETTING me frick her when she's 16...….


Look. I get it. I know why you've ignored that point 4 times already.

It's part of your overt dishonesty.
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