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re: June of last year I predicted Israel was cooked
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:49 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:49 pm to beerJeep
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Weird…. Are you saying that treating your enemy in an absolutely horrible way, murdering hundreds of thousands of innocents to completely break the will of the people and bring them into modernity works?
Isn't working for Israel...
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:49 pm to crazy4lsu
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Not what I asked shite head. Of course you would slink away. Again, did that specific bombing campaign produce the desired result? Yes or no. I know your cowardly arse won't answer directly
Without the bomb, we could have continued the firebombing until the point the Japanese were exterminated or cried uncle
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Again, I need a specific example of 'we didn't do what was necessary to win.'
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Appendix E: Rules of Engagement for U.S. Military Forces in Iraq Issued by U.S. Central Command Combined Forces Land Component Commander A laminated card with the following text was distributed to all U.S. Army and Marine personnel in Iraq. CFLCC ROE CARD On order, enemy military and paramilitary forces are declared hostile and may be attacked subject to the following instructions: a) Positive identification (PID) is required prior to engagement. PID is a reasonable certainty that the proposed target is a legitimate military target. If no PID, contact your next higher commander for decision b) Do not engage anyone who has surrendered or is out of battle due to sickness or wounds. c) Do not target or strike any of the following except in self-defense to protect yourself, your unit, friendly forces, and designated persons or property under your control: Civilians Hospitals, mosques, national monuments, and any other historical and cultural sites. d) Do not fire into civilian populated areas or buildings unless the enemy is using them for military purposes or if necessary for your self-defense. Minimize collateral damage. e) Do not target enemy infrastructure (public works, commercial communication facilities, dams), Lines of Communication (roads, highways, tunnels, bridges, railways) and Economic Objects (commercial storage facilities, pipelines) unless necessary for self-defense or if ordered by your commander. If you must fire on these objects to engage a hostile force, disable and disrupt but avoid destruction of these objects, if possible. The use of force, including deadly force, is authorized to protect the following: Yourself, your unit, and friendly forces Enemy Prisoners of War Civilians from crimes that are likely to cause death or serious bodily harm, such as murder or rape Designated civilians and/or property, such as personnel of the Red Cross/Crescent, UN, and US/UN supported organizations 3. Treat all civilians and their property with respect and dignity. Do not seize civilian property, including vehicles, unless you have the permission of a company level commander and you give a receipt to the property’s owner. Detain civilians if they interfere with mission accomplishment or if required for self-defense. CENTCOM General Order No. 1A remains in effect. Looting and the taking of war trophies are prohibited
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That's a compliment from a guy who thinks the concept of a war crime developed in 1945. You are just a regular coward man. You'll outsource whatever death and destruction and write-off on-the-ground realities as 'leftism.' Capitalize some more words, you great big fat person.
I’d enter the codes myself.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:53 pm to beerJeep
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we didn’t need to continue it because we had this new thing called a nuclear bomb meaning we no longer needed to risk hundreds of planes flying firebombing raids. We only needed one high altitude bomber to drop one bomb to do the equivalent.
Again, you didn't answer the question. Truly some insightful stuff.
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Without the bomb, we could have continued the firebombing until the point the Japanese were exterminated or cried uncle
No, no we wouldn't.
Buddy, color me surprised that you don't appear to have any degree of operational knowledge about what Iraq nor Afghanistan looked like.
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I’d enter the codes myself.
Yes, a great big fat dude is apparently now talking about using nuclear weapons. Truly we are speaking with a modern military master.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:54 pm to beerJeep
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Die or cry uncle. Those are the options in war.
I see you're unable to answer the question. If a blood thirsty psychopath like you is unwilling under the benefit of anonymity to answer this question then I think that says we don't have the political will to carry out your insane objectives.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:56 pm to UtahCajun
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Isn't working for Israel...
Which is sort of my point. They're using tactics that may have been accepted in the WW2 era but are deemed too harsh now. And now the American population is quickly turning against them. The Iran card might be the final nail in the coffin.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:56 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, you didn't answer the question. Truly some insightful stuff.
Quite literally did
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No, no we wouldn't.
Yes. We would have
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Yes, a great big fat dude is apparently now talking about using nuclear weapons. Truly we are speaking with a modern military master.
Aww I’m fat now?
Do what you have to do to win or don’t fight at all. Half measures and fighting one arm behind the back will never work. See every war we have been involved in since 1945.
Anything else retard?
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:57 pm to Powerman
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I see you're unable to answer the question. If a blood thirsty psychopath like you is unwilling under the benefit of anonymity to answer this question then I think that says we don't have the political will to carry out your insane objectives.
I answered your question. Die. Or cry uncle.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:57 pm to beerJeep
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Do what you have to do to win or don’t fight at all
So presumably you acknowledge this as pure stupidity and a huge blunder right?
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:58 pm to beerJeep
The people you’re talking to right now are terrorist and Marxist. Having a moral debate with them is absurd.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 1:59 pm to beerJeep
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I answered your question. Die. Or cry uncle.
I asked what number you're comfortable with. Can you give us a ROM on what you're comfortable with?
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:00 pm to Powerman
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I see you're unable to answer the question. If a blood thirsty psychopath like you is unwilling under the benefit of anonymity to answer this question then I think that says we don't have the political will to carry out your insane objectives.
Bro casually mentioned the American approach to Japan like it wasn't the result of the entire reorientation of the American economy. The Mariana and Palau Islands campaign used more ships in that one campaign than the US currently has active. Given current shipbuilding rates and the associated labor issues, we are several, several years away from something like that. Just utter drive-by Twitter posting with no reference to anything resembling a 'fact.' They really aren't sending their best.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:01 pm to Powerman
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So presumably you acknowledge this as pure stupidity and a huge blunder right?
Yes, fighting with one arm tied behind your back is a blunder.
Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Afghanistan, Iran, have all been blunders because modern western countries no longer have the stomach for doing the things necessary.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:02 pm to beerJeep
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Quite literally did your reading comprehension is arse.
Nope. I asked about the objectives of a very particular campaign. I don't know how many times you've avoided answering it, but you decidedly did not answer it.
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Yes. We would have
No, we wouldn't have. fricker, Henry Stimson saved Kyoto from massive destruction.
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Do what you have to do to win or don’t fight at all. Half measures and fighting one arm behind the back will never work. See every war we have been involved in since 1945.
Great, so we aren't going to win in Iran. Good talk. Run along little guy.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:02 pm to Powerman
What mess is that? Dems own a lot of shite shite. That’s a fact
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:05 pm to beerJeep
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Vietnam
Buddy, you desperately need read a book. France didn't really fight in Vietnam with a hand behind their back and were beaten. The Chinese were also beaten by the Vietnamese.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:05 pm to Powerman
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I asked what number you're comfortable with
All of them.
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Can you give us a ROM on what you're comfortable with?
You go in and you kill everything. You destroy everything. You systematically turn their entire country into a living hellscape. You break the will of the people and the military until they cry uncle. Then you go in, rebuild, and show the people how to live in a current modern society not built upon religious extremism.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:07 pm to Madking
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The people you’re talking to right now are terrorist and Marxist. Having a moral debate with them is absurd.
Yeah, invoking a moral debate while lying about me is certainly a strategy. I don't expect you will see the contradiction though bud.
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:08 pm to crazy4lsu
There’s no contradiction you just proved it
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:08 pm to beerJeep
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Nope. I asked about the objectives of a very particular campaign. I don't know how many times you've avoided answering it, but you decidedly did not answer it.
You really are fricking retarded. I said we didn’t need to continue the firebombing campaign because we now had nuclear bombs which drastically reduced the risk to American airmen.
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No, we wouldn't have. fricker, Henry Stimson saved Kyoto from massive destruction.
Oh noooo! Not one city!
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Great, so we aren't going to win in Iran. Good talk. Run along little guy.
Not if we fight with a hand behind our back
You fricking idiot
Posted on 4/11/26 at 2:09 pm to LSUBALLER
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What mess is that? Dems own a lot of shite shite. That’s a fact
The fact that we're essentially at a stalemate with a suicide cult. The Iran operation did not achieve the goals that we had in place. If you understand messaging you'll know that we're likely to exit with a deal that is beneficial to Iran because that's the best off ramp at this point.
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