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Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:11 am to Strannix
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Who really runs the United States? It's a legitimate question.
Presidents come and go but the Deep State rules in perpetuity.
Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:13 am to Pandy Fackler
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Donald Trump now has firm control over the FBI, CIA, Defense Department, State Department and Justice Department. He's got it all.
My sweet summer child.
Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:13 am to Jack Ruby
The handling of this issue has not been a high point for the Trump administration.
Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:35 am to Strannix
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Who really runs the United States?
It's a legitimate question.
What if the USA is technically a "corporation"?
What if the 18th century Banker-owned British East India Company actually owns and still runs it, never relinquishing power even after 1776?
What if the US legal system (BAR) is still being lorded over out of London?
Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:45 am to Pandy Fackler
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You want to know where this "list" is? Locked in Al Capone's vault, that's where it is, and when it's finally revealed, the Bills won't be on it, neither will Obama or any Trump hating A-list type celebrity, or anyone else this board fantasizes about.
This list is political three card monty and that's all it's ever been.
Pretty good assessment. It is a Game they are playing.
The People, already hit with so much, can only focus on just so many things. ARE these are stunts, magician's tricks presented by sockpuppets?
These files (though legit) wind up as bait, sucking all the oxygen out of the room so that far more deeply important and disturbing revelations and agendas are hidden out of view and behind OZ's Curtain.
Posted on 4/12/25 at 8:48 am to Pandy Fackler
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Donald Trump now has firm control over the FBI, CIA, Defense Department, State Department and Justice Department.
Think so?
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:04 am to tide06
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It might be the most important question we can force an answer to.
The real winner of the Cold War was the Deep State. This is the main lesson of the 1992 Bush/Clinton election: the left wing of the CIA won out over the right wing.
Every election since — with the notable exception of Trump’s surprise victory in 2016 — has been a variation on this theme. Though both wings of the Deep State coalesced to allow Joe Biden to steal the 2020 election, Trump’s popularity with voters ultimately forced the Deep State to concede to some aspects of Trump’s populist agenda.
In this wholly corrupted political environment, some degree of populist pushback is the very best outcome we can expect. It is what it is.
The Crimes of Mena Arkansas
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MENA, Ark. -- What do Bill Clinton and Oliver North have in common, along with the Arkansas State Police and the Central Intelligence Agency? All probably wish they had never heard of Mena.
President Clinton was asked at his Oct. 7 press conference about Mena, a small town and airport in the wilds of Western Arkansas. Sarah McClendon, a longtime Washington curmudgeon renowned for her off-the-wall questions, wove a query around the charge that a base in Mena was "set up by Oliver North and the CIA" in the 1980s and used to "bring in planeload after planeload of cocaine" for sale in the U.S., with the profits then used to buy weapons for the Contras. Was he told as Arkansas governor? she asked.
"No," the president replied, "they didn't tell me anything about it." The alleged events "were primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction. The state really had next to nothing to do with it. The local prosecutor did conduct an investigation based on what was in the jurisdiction of state law. The rest of it was under the jurisdiction of the United States Attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing -- zero -- to do with it."
It was Mr. Clinton's lengthiest remark on the murky affair since it surfaced nearly a decade ago, in the middle of his long tenure as governor of Arkansas. And while the president may be correct to suggest that Mena is an even bigger problem for previous Republican administrations, he was wrong on just about every other count. The state of Arkansas had plenty to do with Mena, and Mr. Clinton left many unanswered questions behind when he moved to Washington.
Anyone who thinks that Mena is not serious should speak to William Duncan, a former Internal Revenue Service investigator who, together with Arkansas State Police Investigator Russell Welch, has fought a bitter 10-year battle to bring the matter to light. They pinned their hopes on nine separate state and federal probes. All failed.
"The Mena investigations were never supposed to see the light of day," says Mr. Duncan, now an investigator with the Medicaid Fraud Division of the office of Arkansas Attorney General Winston Bryant. "Investigations were interfered with and covered up, and the justice system was subverted."
The mysteries of Mena, detailed on this page on June 29, center on the activities of a drug-smuggler-turned-informant named Adler Berriman "Barry" Seal. Mr. Seal began operating at Mena Intermountain Regional Airport in 1981. At the height of his career, according to Mr. Welch, Mr. Seal was importing as much as 1,000 pounds of cocaine a month.
By 1984, Mr. Seal was an informant for the Drug Enforcement Agency and flew at least one sting operation to Nicaragua for the CIA, a mission known to have drawn the attention of Mr. North. By 1986, Mr. Seal was dead, gunned down by Colombian hitmen in Baton Rouge, La. Eight months after Mr. Seal's murder, his cargo plane, which had been based at Mena, was shot down over Nicaragua with Eugene Hasenfus and a load of Contra supplies aboard.....
Read More: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB920421328276427000
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:09 am to Jack Ruby
Bannon and Fitton are going at it on War Room right now. 
Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:26 am to EphesianArmor
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These files (though legit) wind up as bait, sucking all the oxygen out of the room so that far more deeply important and disturbing revelations and agendas are hidden out of view and behind OZ's Curtain.
Here is the thing: the American public has been so conditioned to regurgitate Deep State narratives, we still will have people declaring that what we have gleaned from the release of the Kennedy files so far is a big nothing burger.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
From the day I was born to well into my adulthood, I was dutifully told by the reigning bipartisan political class and their mouthpieces in the MSM that to question any aspect of the conclusions of Warren Commission was tantamount to believing the earth was flat.
Yet we now know that the Warren Commission Report — at the very minimum — was a whitewash of the fact the CIA was tracking Oswald in the days, weeks and months before Kennedy’s assassination.
What has been revealed about JFK’s assassination in the past 30 years alone is not only a searing indictment that the Deep State exists, but prima facie evidence that the highest levels of the United States government was involved in an orchestrated coverup to deceive the American people.
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 9:45 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Here is the thing:
the American public has been so conditioned to regurgitate Deep State narratives, we still will have people declaring that what we have gleaned from the release of the Kennedy files is a big nothing burger. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Over Half the people still believe everything they've been told is true on CNN or FNC.
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we now know that the Warren Commission Report — at the very minimum — was a whitewash of the fact the CIA was tracking Oswald in the days, weeks and months before Kennedy’s assassination.
Regarding the JFK files, I think the Controllers decided to fatigue us into submission by teasing us at present and since the Warren Report nonsense.
Oswald "tracked"? Maybe. For "the record." As the designated patsy.
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What has been revealed about JFK’s assassination in the past 30 years alone is a not only a searing indictment that the Deep State exists, but prima facie evidence that the highest levels of the United States government was involved in an orchestrated coverup to deceive the American people.
The crux of the over-arching problem. A to Z.
Maybe some of the redactions reveal the foreign identities of levers of power behind the "deep state" powers. Might THAT deception be the one truth that Americas would truly be outraged over?
Posted on 4/12/25 at 11:43 am to Pandy Fackler
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If folks don't like what they're seeing, there's a clear direction to point fingers and it's not the "deep state".
Trust the plan bro
Posted on 4/12/25 at 11:44 am to 14&Counting
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Trust the plan bro
Well since you put it like that. Done.
Posted on 4/12/25 at 2:50 pm to EphesianArmor
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Maybe some of the redactions reveal the foreign identities of levers of power behind the "deep state" powers. Might THAT deception be the one truth that Americas would truly be outraged over?
This can’t be. It is hard to imagine any foreign entity having such immense power in determining the internal affairs of our country. Gee? I wonder what country wields such power?
The goy and the golem: James Angleton and the rise of Israel…
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The special relationship between the United States and Israel is usually viewed as the product of great forces, the imperial interests of the United States in the cold war and the work of establishment Jewish groups after Israel’s two regional wars 50 years ago. But individuals play a part, too; and a new biography of the secretive CIA official James Angleton shows the power that a non-Jewish rightwing nationalist played in knitting the two countries together, and building up Israel.
“Angleton was was a leading architect of America’s strategic relationship with Israel that endures and dominates the region to this day,” Jefferson Morley writes in The Ghost: The Secret Life of CIA Spymaster James Jesus Angleton. More than any other man, the longtime chief of U.S. counterintelligence made possible Israel’s shift “from an embattled settler state into a strategic ally of the world’s greatest superpower.”
Angleton did so chiefly by burying any effort in the U.S. intelligence establishment to question Israel’s acquisition of nuclear weapons in the 1960s. “Angleton’s loyalty to Israel betrayed U.S. policy on an epic scale,” Morley writes. “Instead of supporting U.S. nuclear security policy, he ignored it.”
Could one person effect such significant policy? It is the persuasive argument of this book that a man as willful and brilliant (and twisted) as Angleton was able in the 1960s to acquire such position inside the executive branch that he could control vital flows of information. And Angleton reasoned that intelligence-sharing between the countries was more valuable to the United States than thwarting Israel’s path to becoming a regional superpower.
Today it is no surprise that Angleton is remembered more fondly in Israel than in the United States. Here he has the clouded reputation of a paranoid who used the CIA to spy on domestic political activities, resulting in scandal that forced his resignation in 1975. In Jerusalem there are two memorials to Angleton, dedicated by high officials, Morley relates. One stone is outside Angleton’s beloved oasis, the King David Hotel. “In memory of a dear friend,” it says.
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Posted on 4/12/25 at 4:12 pm to 14&Counting
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Trust the plan bro
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