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re: Judge Blocks Trump Santuary city order

Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by CorporateTiger
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
I'm not sure about the order here, but you are completely incorrect.

All lower courts are created by statute. Thus the legislature has the authority to disband them.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
Minor delay, as with the immigration ban, SCOTUS will rule in favor of the constitution and back the President.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:22 pm to
id like to see them enforce this "ruling". These liberal judges are getting out of hand. This is so clearly a power of the executive. They don't get to usurp the powers of another branch just by ruling it so.
Posted by Haughton99
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:23 pm to
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No oversight?

That money is distributed under the decision of the executive branch.

Those cities have no right to it...period.


Just curious.

Where did you receive your Juris Doctorate degree?
Posted by LSUcjb318
Member since Jul 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:23 pm to

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If it were just that and not activism...


Doesn't matter. That's the system and it goes both ways.



•The executive branch can declare Executive Orders, which are like proclamations that carry the force of law, but the judicial branch can declare those acts unconstitutional.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:23 pm to
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wan't Trump
Not a word.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:24 pm to
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How on earth is this unconstitutional?
My thumbnail understanding of the argument is that Trump was threatening with aid to localities that was established under the ARRA stimulus. The executive imposing new and arbitrary (since the funds weren't related to immigration) conditions thus steps on Congress' purse powers.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:24 pm to
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Doesn't matter.


I respect a liberal that actually takes this stance and doesn't pretend that it's not activism.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:25 pm to
Forget it...
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:25 pm to
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The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.
BREAKING: Trumpkin, subsisting on diet of paste and paint chips, confuses legislative and executive branches.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Screech
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:26 pm to
He should order ice to surround every police department and every court of law in sanctuary cities. Anyone entering or leaving should be required to show proof of legal status. If they can't prove they're legal, arrest them. Anyone harboring illegals should be arrested for conspiracy to commit immigration fraud, harboring an illegal/fugitive, and/or obstruction. Once these libtard pussies are in federal prison getting dick up the arse... they'll comply.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:26 pm to
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The executive imposing new and arbitrary (since the funds weren't related to immigration) conditions thus steps on Congress' purse powers.


And what happens if Congress, well the GOP Congress that is, submits a brief or even passes a resolution saying that they have no problem with Trump using those funds as leverage against sanctuary cities?
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:27 pm to
Am I correct in stating that the stimulus is not a contract with the state and legislature was not a party to the case? I admit I don't know much about this particular case, so your point got me curious.
Posted by LoneMDG
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:28 pm to
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BREAKING: Trumpkin, subsisting on diet of paste and paint chips, confuses legislative and executive branches.

Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Judge Blocks anything Trump decides to do
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:30 pm to
The legislature doesn't need to be party to a case in order for the judiciary to conclude it violates separation of powers. They can't abrogate to the executive powers explicitly designated to them by the Constitution simply by inaction. Heck sometimes even if they want to (see: line-item veto).
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:30 pm to
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And what happens if Congress

Now you're getting it.


Trump? Not so much.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:30 pm to
Trump should just ignore it.

Everyone thinks federal court decisions have any merit.

Contrary to that belief the court doesn't have any enforcement power.

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!" Andrew Jackson

Alexander Hamilton in the Federalist papers said the Judiciary is the weakest branch of Government, "because they have neither sword nor purse"

The president and or congress can absolutely ignore the judiciary in the US because they really don't matter.

As long as the President does not wish to have his justice dept enforce an edict or decision of the SCOTUS nothing will happen.

SCOTUS decisions have typically followed politics not defined them.

As an example...

Brown vs Board of education. 1954

It wasn't even enforced until the 1965 Civil Rights act passed by Congress and then enforced by Johnson.
Without Presidential enforcement public schools would still be segregated.


This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 4/25/17 at 3:31 pm to
How many threads is that for this same gif? Really showing off your wit. Though, I guess for a gump, it's the best you can do.
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