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Jokey1968
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Juan Williams Amitted BLM
Doesn’t care about black deaths unless committed by a cop. He just commented on Colts player that was killed saying the guy that killed him was not a cop and he could’ve been killed by an American.

Never mind that he’d been deported twice. Where do these chicken suckers come from.

How can someone think this way?


TaderSalad
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How can someone think this way?



Conditioned on the plantation.


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TigerAlum1982
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
When Juan Williams comes on Fox, the channel gets changed or the TV gets turned off. I don't mind hearing the other side, but his b.s. is intolerable.


elposter
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
Black lives matters purports to believe (whether wrongly or rightly) that blacks are targeted by a government institution (police force). Do you not see how that issue would be different than a random person (who could have been any color) getting killed by a drunk driver? It seems like you are really stretching to try and make a comparison here unless there is some theory that the victim of the drunk driver was targeted because he was black.


BlackHelicopterPilot
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
I hesitate to do this:

I am NOT in the BLM group, etc. I believe they are more of a political ideology concoction and the stats they use are incorrect.


Having said THAT:

There is a big difference between dying in an accident (even one caused by a fricking illegal), dying in a thug shooting (even if an innocent bystander), and BEING KILLED BY A GOVERNMENTAL AGENT WITH THE POWER TO KILL.


Again..IF they were correct that a Gov group was killing with bias, etc...that WOULD be the one that is most addressable and wrong, IMO.


Please, let's discuss the philosophical point and not take it as a support from me of the BLM folks.




RogerTheShrubber
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Do you not see how that issue would be different than a random person (who could have been any color) getting killed by a drunk driver? It seems like you are really stretching to try and make a comparison here unless there is some theory that the victim of the drunk driver was targeted because he was black.


The problem is they refuse to see reality. The few supporters I know (all white) still believe white people are systematically killing blacks, period

The real issue is that BLM is just another socialist program under the Democrat umbrella


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BamaFan365
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
So are you saying you support BLM?


hsfolk
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hard to believe that both of Juan's sons are Republicans


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BlackHelicopterPilot
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
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So are you saying you support BLM?










I love this post


BamaFan365
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I was hoping you would see it as the weak attempt at humor that it was.


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RTN
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
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There is a big difference between dying in an accident (even one caused by a fricking illegal), dying in a thug shooting (even if an innocent bystander), and BEING KILLED BY A GOVERNMENTAL AGENT WITH THE POWER TO KILL.



Yeah there is a big difference. Sometimes cops are justified in shooting and killing people. Hard to know in most cases. Lots of gray there.

It is never justified for an illegal immigrant to be driving in our country without a license and intoxicated. This is black & white.


This post was edited on 2/6 at 4:52 pm


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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
It should be called," Black Causes Matter" instead.


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alphaandomega
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
So Juan only cares about he black people killed by cops (or government agent)?

Sounds like some kind of privilege. That is a joke. What is not a joke is that he doesn't seem to mind if the murderer is another black person. That it only matters when a cop (preferable a white male cop) does it.

That is disgraceful. I believe all life is precious. From the baby to the married, single, white, black, gay, or straight. If you don't respect human life you are a scumbag.

With that being said I understand that some cops are bad and need to be removed, but you can't lump them all in there together. Some are really good people trying to do a difficult job. Sometimes they make a mistake, and when they make a a mistake they should pay the price (as everyone should).


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Jokey1968
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
Cops aren’t the African Americans problem. I do agree there are some issues with the police, but African Americans are the problem of African Americans whether you like it not. Until that community addresses their own problem with each other killing themselves then I have no sympathy for them.


PsychTiger
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
BHPLM


elposter
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
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Cops aren’t the African Americans problem. I do agree there are some issues with the police, but African Americans are the problem of African Americans whether you like it not. Until that community addresses their own problem with each other killing themselves then I have no sympathy for them.


Not trying to get into a debate about whether BLM's cause (cops allegedly targeting blacks) is just or correct. I don't believe it is either so we are in agreement there. I'm just trying to point out that there is a difference in the belief (as misguided or downright disingenuous as it may be) that a government entity is targeting people based on race versus someone getting killed by a drunk driver that clearly wasn't targeting them based on race. These are two very different ideas that the OP is trying to conflate. It's a pretty simple and seemingly obvious proposition.

Again this isn't about the validity of BLM's cause (I agree that it is mostly BS) or the argument about illegal aliens (I agree that it is big problem that needs to be fixed and the borders need to be secured).


Crimson Wraith
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
Juan is a quivering candy-ass.



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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
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These are two very different ideas that the OP is trying to conflate. It's a pretty simple and seemingly obvious proposition.


BLM doesn’t have clear motives or ideas. Their movement is an extension of OWS


elposter
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re: Juan Williams Amitted BLM
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BLM doesn’t have clear motives or ideas. Their movement is an extension of OWS


That's fine and true to a large degree. Not germane to my point but it's cool. I was just trying to point out that there would be a difference in governmental institutional targeting of blacks versus a black person being killed in random fashion by the illegal alien drunk driver. Think of it theoretically if it helps. The two issues would be very different and shouldn't be conflated. That's my only point.
This post was edited on 2/6 at 5:18 pm


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