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re: John Durham's Legacy

Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:00 pm to
Bingo it's slow fanni pro playbook.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:15 pm to
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You mock anyone demanding accountability,
but there's been accountability. He already gave you clinesmith
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10105 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:21 pm to
Also, the FBI, during Biden's Presidency, never made any arrests of the Top 10 FBI's Most Wanted criminals in this country.

In the span of a few months, under Trump and Kash, the FBI has caught them all. No news coverage of that. Almost like they don't want anyone to know.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10105 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:22 pm to
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ETA: whom sfp is already defending


Of course he is...
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10105 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Let me guess why you think that…


Because he has a scorching case of paranoid TDS and anything that proves a criminal conspiracy against Trump by his Democrat heroes gives him the sads and TDS angries.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:24 pm to
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but there's been accountability. He already gave you clinesmith


What a scalp on the wall! Justice served
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10105 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:27 pm to
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quote:
but I'll clarify it fully for you


please dont.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:27 pm to
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Oh, now it’s “opinion guides the final product”? Cute pivot


No pivot

Maybe you understand the (simple) argument finally and will stop embarrassing yourself lying
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When it was convenient, you framed it as a neutral process

Maybe not

I clearly used subjective. I never said neutral

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now you’re defending the result as subjective judgment

That literally has always been the argument

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And saying “I never claimed they were innocent” is such a weak dodge


No Dodge

You just lied and I pointed it out

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You posture like you’re above it all, but your whole act is just partisan absolution

When you lie sure

Why do you continue to lie?

Why not discuss this honestly based on my actual stances and arguments?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Ah, the classic slowfanni shuffle: defend the behavior,

Never did that

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justify the outcome

I never did that

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But let’s be real, you spent half this thread defending Obam

I did not
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10105 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:29 pm to
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Why can't you just admit that you hate Trump and you've also always ran interference for Obama and his minions? (SPOILER ALERT: After all these years it's not like you're fooling anybody).


Exactly. His TDS is CRAZY.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
10105 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:31 pm to
Why are you posting so many times in this thread? No one gives a frick what you have to say.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

quote:
but there's been accountability. He already gave you clinesmith


What a scalp on the wall! Justice served
SpECiFiCaLLaY CoVeReD!
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:45 pm to
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quote:
justify the outcome

I never did that
muh Clinesmith
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:46 pm to
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Why are you posting so many times in this thread?


Originally to educate people who clearly need assistance

Now it's addressing straw men and lies
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:47 pm to
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muh Clinesmith

Citing the example where objective fraud occurred is not justifying anything, except the Truth
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46483 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:48 pm to
dont believe your lying eyes!

-ShillForProgs
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:55 pm to
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Citing the example where objective fraud occurred is not justifying anything, except the Truth

Let's review:
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A “differing interpretation” doesn’t excuse altering intel, lying to a FISA court, or concealing findings that contradicted the chosen narrative or their framing…That’s not opinion, that’s misconduct

You ignored all that which I pointed out. Your response was that your specifically addressed it and presented clinesmith's prosecution as evidence... of...what exactly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:58 pm to
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You ignored all that

I specifically did not. I sided the person who actually lied to the fisa court who was prosecuted

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and presented clinesmith's prosecution as evidence... of...what exactly?

See above

What Clinesmith did was actually fraud though, and it was nothing like what is in the memo. He literally edited evidence that was submitted to the court, which is an objective case of fraud where we're not revealing an opinion or subjectivity
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16659 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:02 pm to
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specifically did not. I sided the person who actually lied to the fisa court who was prosecuted
you what?

The whole Clinesmith "prosecution" was total horseshite and you know it. I can't believe you are even pretending to hide behind that frickery
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
468041 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:12 pm to
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you what?



*Cited

Using voice to text

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The whole Clinesmith "prosecution" was total horseshite and you know it. I can't believe you are even pretending to hide behind that frickery

The point, as usual, is over your head. His example is one of actual fraud and he was prosecuted for it. Specifically lying to the fisa court, which is what I responded to specifically.

There's no such direct evidence of an objective fraud by Obama and company and their actions are shielded in subjectivity and opinion. What Clinesmith did was objective fraud because he actually edited evidence that he submitted to the court. You can't use opinion to get out of that one.

They should illustrate the difference in the two cases and why one was easy, despite what I imagine you're arguing is a light sentence, and why the prosecution against Obama and his executive agents will not be as easy. It really can't be made more simple for you
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