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re: John Deere has done questionable things

Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37134 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:29 am to
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Your Kabota is a much better choice considering what you get vs how much you spent, believe me
I love my Kubota L3901 with a front end loader. I was talking to my Kubota guy and said they could run circles around the smaller John Deere's just on quality. Where Deere separates itself is in the big stuff. Kubota just doesn't go there in a big way. Case I guess is their biggest competitor in the big stuff.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:34 am to
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John Deere: "even though we're an American company, these tariffs are killing us"

If they’re an “American” company why would a tariff on goods impact them?

If you want to claim to be an “American” company manufacture your parts and assembly your finished goods here.

The reason why it’s killing them is they’re a multinational corporation sourcing foreign goods and parts with a board full of globalists who haven’t been concerned with the best interests of America, their workers or consumers for decades.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37134 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 8:57 am to
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If they’re an “American” company why would a tariff on goods impact them?
I would guess parts from China.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
7322 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:29 am to
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Didn't they get slapped down by the courts over that?


Yes. A couple of years ago they lost a case and now you should be able to do your own work or take it to a non-deere mechanic for service. They can no longer lock down their diagnostics and fixes to just deere dealers.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:30 am to
Can you quote the article? Its behind a paywall/
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:32 am to
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If they’re an “American” company why would a tariff on goods impact them?


Most big mfgrs use foreign components in their products.

We've been telling yall this for years. There are some things that are not practical to produce here.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
7322 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:32 am to
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I would guess parts from China.


Probably a lot of chinese parts in their computer systems. Also John Deere runs Yanmar engines in all of their stuff with the exception of light duty items such as SXS and mowers. They probably import all of that from Yanmar in Japan or one of their other Asian factories.
This post was edited on 9/5/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:35 am to
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Most big mfgrs use foreign components in their products.

So start.

Or don't and pay tariffs.

quote:

We've been telling yall this for years. There are some things that are not practical to produce here.

And we've been telling you don't be surprised when people who want to onshore jobs and reduce trade imbalances start doing things to ensure those outcomes take place.

Bitch about it if you want, its what Trump was elected to do and its exactly what is happening whether the left, the globalists or the multinational corporations like it or not.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:36 am to
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Most big mfgrs use foreign components in their products.

So start.


They
Arent
economically
feasible
to
produce
here
or
we
would.



How many times can you people hear this and still not understand?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46225 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:38 am to
I work in the segment and Deere has been bracing for this downturn for a few years. Its precisely why John May was a surprise pick for CEO in 2019 and brought in BCG to start cleaning house in early 2020. There were massive layoffs and a complete corporate reorg before this tariff debate ever started.

The media will blame this on tariffs, but only a tiny fraction of US domestic sales are imported. The unions wont let that shite happen.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16973 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:40 am to
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I would guess parts from China




Yes, while the tractors are assembled in Georgia the parts come from all over the world. My first position when I moved to the 5000 series plant was installing the draft links and they were from Spain. And I know the final assembly of the engines before they came to the plant was in Mexico.

Very little if any of the parts on the tractors were from the USA
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20634 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:41 am to
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Cub Cadet mower
quote:

30 year-old Murray workhorse mower.
quote:

frick John Deere.
News break: All made by the same company.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:43 am to
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They
Arent
economically
feasible
to
produce
here
or
we
would.

It took them 30 years to completely gut our industrial capacity to maximize their operating margins.

Itll take them a few years to onshore.

And even when thats done some components will still be made offshore likely. So be it.

But the market will adjust as it always does, we're just making sure that the end result is manufacturing that occurs here rather than China and Mexico so that purchases result in American jobs rather than American welfare and debt.

I don't expect you to agree and I don't really care either way. As long as Trump or Vance are in power its what's going to happen because its the only path to economic sustainability for America over a 10-20 year window.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:45 am to
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It took them 30 years to completely gut our industrial capacity to maximize their operating margins.


Its the regulatory environment and uber high wages caused by govt constantly stimulating growth.

We cannot compete globally on low margin items without major tech breakthroughs. This isnt opinion.

THe policies YOU push would exacerbate this issue.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:49 am to
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Its the regulatory environment

Trump has cut more regulations than any president in American history.

He'll cut more before he's done. You're welcome.
quote:

uber high wages

In what industry? Look at what UAW workers made in the 70s compared to now. Its a fraction of what they made previously.

Compared to slave labor in China its higher, but we don't want a country of slaves or serfs so the middle class will need reasonable wages.
quote:

We cannot compete globally on low margin items

Trump is onshoring chips.
Trump is onshoring cars.
Trump is onshoring computing.
Trump is onshoring electronics.
Trump is onshoring pharma production.

None of those are low margin items.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:50 am to
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Compared to slave labor in China its higher,


This is so fricking stupid. You people have become SJWs
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20629 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:52 am to
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This is so fricking stupid. You people have become SJWs

Are there slave labor factories in China? Yes or no.

They just talked openly about organ harvesting to keep party members alive to 150 yesterday on an open mic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297212 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:54 am to
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Are there slave labor factories in China? Yes or no.


I guess it depends on how you SJWs define "slave labor" now. It seems to keep changing.

China had the fastest growing middle class in the world.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35600 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:56 am to
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know my grandpa would roll over in his grave if he knew I have Kabota.

You're hard pressed to find a better and tougher tractor than a Kubota.

We bought our LB402 work tractor 20 years ago and have brutally punished that thing doing way heavier work than it was designed for, and in that time the only repairs needed were to completely replace a brush hog attachment twice, replace the boom cylinder seals a couple times, replace the two-stage clutch and replace the tilt cylinder seals a few times.

Kubota is bulletproof and I would honestly never buy another brand after two decades of experience on one.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1142 posts
Posted on 9/5/25 at 9:56 am to
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I like how you took the time to type out GD twice and remembered to capitalize God both times. Respeck


Agree, but shouldn’t “damn” be “damned?”
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