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re: Joe Rogan shreds people for saying Donald Trump’s Mar-A-Lago is only worth $18Million
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:11 pm to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:11 pm to Vacherie Saint
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to cwill
quote:Uh, hmm. Yep... FIFY
Why can’t you be honest for one goddamned moment in your hack life and admit this is a frivolous lawfare suit designed to interfere with the election?
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Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:15 pm to Vacherie Saint
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You demand I only consider subjective real estate evaluations included in this witch hunt opinion, and ignore many experts coming forward to support the Trump evaluation, and IM the ignorant one here?
Yes, you haven't read anything and are unfamiliar with the facts of the case. For the most part this isn't a matter of varying appraisals, it's a matter of appraisals with relevant facts v. Trumpco value and lying about facts. Mar-a-lago is likely the weakest case but still involves omission of relevant facts.
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Just admit you want the guy locked up and save us this fruitless faux debate.
I don't care if he's locked up. I just like the exposure. I think it's more likely he inflated values for Forbes 400 consideration than for more favorable loan terms.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:18 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
I bough a property in 2021 for 225K. A realtor called me a year later and offered to sell it for 450k. It sounded too good to be true so she sent me a bpo in writing. I respectfully declined.
According to the Nazi cwill, if I use that opinion on a financial statement by adding 225K to my net worth, and someone somewhere anywhere believes the property is worth less, I have committed fraud and need to die in prison.
According to the Nazi cwill, if I use that opinion on a financial statement by adding 225K to my net worth, and someone somewhere anywhere believes the property is worth less, I have committed fraud and need to die in prison.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:24 pm to doublecutter
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That's just the land that the main house sits on, not the complete property. If IRC he said it was two acres, not the entire 20 actes.
Well, that would seem to be relevant information you should have included in your prior post. Can you link anything that provides what you're claiming?
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:24 pm to cwill
It’s ok sis. He was just selling the “illusion” of higher market values.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:26 pm to cwill
Why should he link anything? You are so fricking ate up, we all know you won’t budge from your moronic beliefs.
You are a dog with a bone at this point
You are a dog with a bone at this point
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:26 pm to Vacherie Saint
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According to the Nazi cwill, if I use that opinion on a financial statement by adding 225K to my net worth, and someone somewhere anywhere believes the property is worth less, I have committed fraud and need to die in prison.
You continue to misrepresent. Furthermore, there's no jail time here for El Trumpo. It's a fine and possibly some limitations on biz dealings. You really seem to have no idea what is going on in this case.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:27 pm to cajunangelle
Vacant lots in the vicinity of MAL go for over $100 million. I'm really surprised, not, that the New York Appellate court allowed this charade to continue.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Why should he link anything? You are so fricking ate up, we all know you won’t budge from your moronic beliefs.
You seem to have no idea what is going on, nor do you seem to be able to read my posts. You think this case is just a matter of battling appraisals, that the only property in questions is Mar-a-lago, and that Trump might go to jail. All wrong.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:29 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Because the courts in NY are lousy with Nazis like cwill. That’s why they have to dredge up old shite from when he lived and worked in NYC.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:29 pm to cwill
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I don't care if he's locked up.
And THAT is proof you’re a sick demented progressive frick.
It should disgust you what they’re trying to do no matter what you align with politically.
This could happen to all of us of it can happen to a billionaire ex president except WE WOULD NOT be able to fight because we’re not billionaires.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:33 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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And THAT is proof you’re a sick demented progressive frick.
It should disgust you what they’re trying to do no matter what you align with politically.
This could happen to all of us of it can happen to a billionaire ex president except WE WOULD NOT be able to fight because we’re not billionaires.
They're not trying to lock him up in this case.
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This could happen to all of us of it can happen to a billionaire ex president except WE WOULD NOT be able to fight because we’re not billionaires.
Don't make fraudulent representations and you should be OK.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:37 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Here is the Complaint. The allegations regarding Mar-a-Lago fill ten pages of the Complaint, beginning at paragraph 362 on page 101. Starting at page 147, there are about 40 pages of explanation of the various ways that Trump used the inflated valuations and benefited from them. VERY basically, he got more favorable loan terms for his businesses by providing personal guaranties based upon a significantly-inflated net worth, in turn based upon significantly-inflated representations of property values.
According to cwill, as long as you can get someone to say it’s worth something other than your estimated FMV, you’ve committed fraud and you die in prison.
It is not about competing assessments. It is about knowingly-false representations of value.
And the case arises from a similar pattern of fraud on more than 20 properties, not just Mar-a-Lago. All are outlined in the Complaint in some detail.
And this post will have ten downvotes before anyone could read three of those 40+ pages.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:39 pm to Sweep Da Leg
Sell a home building scam in Haiti and run off with the cash? Not fraud.
Lie on your college admissions applications to get international student set asides? Not fraud.
Sell access to the White House to foreign oligarchs and communist central planners in Asia? Not fraud.
Use upper range values for real estate holdings on a financial statement? Fry in hell.
Lie on your college admissions applications to get international student set asides? Not fraud.
Sell access to the White House to foreign oligarchs and communist central planners in Asia? Not fraud.
Use upper range values for real estate holdings on a financial statement? Fry in hell.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:44 pm to cwill
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They're not trying to lock him up in this case.
Agreed. They are trying to throw a presidential election to a 90 year old diaper wearer.
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Don't make fraudulent representations and you should be OK.
Who was defrauded? For how much? Where is their lawsuit?
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:47 pm to cwill
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Well, that would seem to be relevant information you should have included in your prior post. Can you link anything that provides what you're claiming?
Reading comprehension.
I stated the land that the "house sits on".
Posted on 10/6/23 at 4:51 pm to doublecutter
Right. Then he demands you link it. Not because he’s intellectually curious, but so he can poke holes in the source like a good shill.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 5:01 pm to robinette
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b/c he's a roided-out idiot with shite for brains.
Could you post some links to your bodies of intellectual work, robinette?
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:14 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Who was defrauded? For how much? Where is their lawsuit?
This is the question to be answered by the OMB crowd. They won’t though.
Or….let’s say he did over value some real estate. It is the private banks obligation to investigate and verify the numbers. This is NOT a situation for any AG to hear. It is something between a private bank and an individual. This 10 pg thread is an argument about nothing.
Posted on 10/6/23 at 6:22 pm to Antoninus
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VERY basically, he got more favorable loan terms for his businesses by providing personal guaranties based upon a significantly-inflated net worth, in turn based upon significantly-inflated representations of property values.
That’s on the banks, not Trump. I guess critical thinking isn’t your strong point.
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