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re: Jefferson was correct on many things...
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:02 pm to FredBear
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:02 pm to FredBear
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You read closer bro. I've supported no such thing
To be clear, I'm inculcating the broad coalition of various conservatives that are assembled in the big-tent Republican party. In that sense, it is absolutely true they supported those policies. I don't know you or your ideas individually, but I'm talking about group dynamics nonetheless, which are the only dynamics that matter with respect to resistance.
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Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:04 pm to LSU1SLU
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you gotta get out from under your rock lmao. why havent these people stopped school shootings or mass shootings? naive little boy you sound
If we must have some retard window-licker from the OT wander over here, can we at least swap you out for the Oweo guy?
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:04 pm to LSU1SLU
You're the one saying you're going to take something bud. Don't back out now. I'll be here. Show up
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:07 pm to FredBear
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Jefferson was correct on many things...
You're the one saying you're going to take something bud. Don't back out now. I'll be here. Show up
you cant read lmao yet want me to continue to argue with you on politics? and why ignore your age question? you just now realizing you been a sheep your whole life?
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:09 pm to Flats
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If we must have some retard window-licker from the OT wander over here, can we at least swap you out for the Oweo guy?
your the naive little boy who thinks gun owners have stopped anything... why didnt you respond to what you quoted? bc you have no response other than to name call. gun owners over here stopping shootings and stabbings apparently
you sound like a naive little boy.. move along
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:09 pm to crazy4lsu
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But in this case, small arms are not the same thing as modern military weaponry.
That’s now how civil violence or civil wars start. It doesn’t go from zero conflict to tanks, which is why I used the word “escalate”. Guns up the ante for either side that wants to apply force, and that’s costly from a political perspective. I suspect you understand that at a micro level; same applies at the macro, even though the scaling may not be linear.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:12 pm to Flats
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That’s now how civil violence or civil wars start. It doesn’t go from zero conflict to tanks, which is why I used the word “escalate”. Guns up the ante for either side that wants to apply force, and that’s costly from a political perspective. I suspect you understand that at a micro level; same applies at the macro, even though the scaling may not be linear
you kind of literally said nothing while trying to sound as smart as other poster
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:12 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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The only flaw there is that he lived in a time where the heaviest firepower you would face was muskets. Not Boston Dynamic terminators and attack drones.
Won't matter
The targets of the "revolutionaries" will be politicians, bureaucracts, officials, judges, media personalities etc
No one is going toe to toe against the military, that is Leftist tranny jerkoff talk
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:27 pm to Flats
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That’s now how civil violence or civil wars start.
You are correct about this. But I'd wager that any government involved civil conflict would quickly move to more firepower than civilians could obtain. At least that has been the trend for all policing agencies in the US.
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It doesn’t go from zero conflict to tanks, which is why I used the word “escalate”. Guns up the ante for either side that wants to apply force, and that’s costly from a political perspective.
Of course, but given events in US history, I'm very skeptical that the blowback will be immediate. The black pill of politics in the modern era is that large segments of the population would willingly participate in the subjugation of US citizens, or at least turn a blind eye to it, if it didn't directly affect their life. Given the degree of political engagement in general, I'd suggest that the latter scenario is more likely. If there isn't immediate blowback, then an incremental scenario where escalation is one-sided might be likely.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:38 pm to LSU1SLU
You'll see my age when you show up. I'll be here
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:39 pm to FredBear
old sheeple lmao.. you cant see your feet anymore
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:41 pm to LSU1SLU
Just because your chicken shite doesn't mean others are. If we had our guns taken from us, a lot would change. Don't be ignorant.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:44 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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Just because your chicken shite doesn't mean others are. If we had our guns taken from us, a lot would change. Don't be ignorant.
lemme guess.. you gonna fight the govt when they come to your door..
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:48 pm to crazy4lsu
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Given the degree of political engagement in general, I'd suggest that the latter scenario is more likely.
Despite having firepower superiority we had politics influence Vietnam and Afghanistan, and those are brown-ish people on the other side of the world. They didn’t have to defeat our military, they just had to make it costly. Those pressures wouldn’t be real when the military is going after Fred Duncan the cattle farmer instead of Abdul the terrorist/goat fricker?
I believe my earlier summary is accurate: both sides being armed is a fundamentally different dynamic than one side being armed.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:52 pm to Flats
Are you telling me the cattle farmer will do anything? The taliban risk their lives. Y’all are scared to go to Walmart
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:54 pm to HillabeeBaw
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:04 pm to Flats
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Despite having firepower superiority we had politics influence Vietnam and Afghanistan, and those are brown-ish people on the other side of the world. They didn’t have to defeat our military, they just had to make it costly.
Well this is why I mention organizing so much. The Vietnamese had foreign aid and the VC/PAVN spent large portions of the day training, as well as producing after-battle reports about their performance. They were relatively poorly equipped, but they had doctrine, tactics, and strategies that aligned with the equipment they had on offer.
The same is true of the Taliban, which was interwoven with already extremely robust crime networks and also had the largesse of several groups in the Islamic world. It's not exactly an analogous situation, especially given the average American's inability to organize about bipartisan things.
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Those pressures wouldn’t be real when the military is going after Fred Duncan the cattle farmer instead of Abdul the terrorist/goat fricker?
The US security apparatus can neutralize a single person without the need for violence. That's why organizing is so important and is also why the FBI has informants of every stripe in already existing groups.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 6:19 pm to LSU1SLU
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the cattle farmer will do anything
That cattle farmer has plenty of places to hide the bodies and probably a back hoe to dig the hole.
ETA: country folk do shite on a daily basis that would make an urban dweller vomit. Threatening them with violence won’t end well.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 5/18/23 at 6:29 pm to SuperSaint
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:29 pm to crazy4lsu
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quote: But you know damn well there are at least some that would have. That is the point. What is an unorganized group of gun owners going to do exactly? So far, all you people do is type on the computer about how you have the ‘potential’ to fight. That isn’t the same as doing the hard work of, you know, actually organizing resistance.
I guess you didn’t read my entire post. And I wasn’t attacking his whole position. I actually agree that the overwhelming majority would do nothing. But think about this….if during the pandemic, if our government had starting bussing kids straight from school to vaccine sites without parent consent….do you really think there wouldn’t be at least a few pissed parents not show up with guns to get there children. Just that small threat is why they didn’t do stuff like that.
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