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Jeff Landry says It's all Fake News: He hasn't challenged the news reports however
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:49 am
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Landry’s camp has repeatedly refused to say how many American workers were hired under the contracts to provide qualified welders and pipefitters mostly for jobs at the massive Cameron LNG liquefied natural gas facility being built in Hackberry, south of Lake Charles.
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Pesquera said no Americans were hired for the work, though at least 113 of them applied.
Looks like this AG is anti-American when hiring workers. Instead of hiring Louisiana citizens, he prefers to bring in 195 Mexican Laborers using questionable means. Wondering if all the paperwork submitted to those federal agencies was done properly, legally, and truthfully in order to secure those temporary work visas?
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This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:05 am to crewdepoo
He might as well address the questions now, rather in a debate for governor in 4 years. Whomever runs for governor in 2024, should line up those 113 American workers denied employment, for a group photo and use it in their political ads against JL.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:12 am to boudinman
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Looks like this AG is anti-American when hiring workers.
If you don't believe a single American was hired to work as welders/pipefitters at Cameron LNG, then you're an idiot. The talent pool in that part of Louisiana and most of the south was nearly exhausted staffing Cameron and Sasol. The contractors that have the contracts for these projects are required, BY LAW, to hire Americans with proof of citizenship. Several layers of background checks go into this (TWIC for example).
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Instead of hiring Louisiana citizens, he prefers to bring in 195 Mexican Laborers
The AG doesn't hire or staff workers for private industry, moron.
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Wondering if all the paperwork submitted to those federal agencies was done properly, legally, and truthfully in order to secure those temporary work visas?
I don't even think temporary work visas are allowed. And considering the Quality checks needed for many of the types of welds, i'm willing to bet most foreign workers do not have those AMERICAN WELDING CERTIFICATIONS.
In short, you don't know what you are talking about. Go back to eating crayons.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:14 am to boudinman
Mexicans stacked, Americans fricked
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:19 am to BugAC
We know the AG doesn't hire for these jobs. But it's been stated that Jeff Landry started many layers of private companies to hire these workers outside of his AG duties. His private companies hired these foreign workers. It should be EASY TO PROVE one way or the other. If he didn't, he should sue whoever made this up. If he did, he's an unAmerican POS and should resign immediately and be scorned and admonished and not be able to find a job in Louisiana EVER. Or in the USA for that matter. Or if what he did is illegal, he should be sent to ANGOLA prison !
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:20 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:20 am to BugAC
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The AG doesn't hire or staff workers for private industry, moron
Did you read the underlying article?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:24 am to BugAC
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The AG doesn't hire or staff workers for private industry, moron.
Read the damn story idiot. He and his brother OWN the Company that brought in the 195 Mexican workers.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:27 am to Picayuner
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But it's been stated that Jeff Landry started many layers of private companies to hire these workers outside of his AG duties.
By whom? Again, you can try to defraud the state, but you can't defraud the inspectors and the welding certifications. That shite is pretty stringent especially in chemical process plants. Different metals require different welds, and different skill sets. This is a hit piece, and nothing more. And i'm no big Jeff Landry supporter.
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It should be EASY TO PROVE one way or the other.
Well, i would think the accusations need to be proved, not the "Jeff prove you didn't hire workers". He's not a damn contractor.
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If he didn't, he should sue whoever made this up.
Absolutely.
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If he did, he's an unAmerican POS and should resign immediately and be scorned and admonished
Sounds like your ready to convict on hearsay. Don't believe everything you read in the papers.
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Or if what he did is illegal, he should be sent to ANGOLA prison !
Wow, you are unhinged.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:33 am to boosiebadazz
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Did you read the underlying article?
Not before posting, but i just did. What i stated is still true. You aren't going to get past the AWS, ASME, and the litany of other standards and procedures required by hiring unchecked illegals from Mexico. If i'm wrong, i'll gladly come back and say i was wrong. But the welding requirements are extremely tight due to the nature of the chemicals that runs through them, and it would be extremely difficult to forge TWIC cards, as well as the other background checks required to work in or around a natural gas facility.
By a show of hands, how many here have worked in a plant, and for how long?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:35 am to boudinman
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He and his brother OWN the Company that brought in the 195 Mexican workers.
You mean the hit piece? Why don't you apply common sense first? But, of course, you'd have to have a slight idea of the industry before making an informed opinion.
Landry was correct, this is 100% fake news.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:41 am to BugAC
You missed the point again dufus. It isn't about whether or not the Mexicans could weld or about their certification. It's he hired 195, yet 113 American applied and were denied a job. The AG, as owner, has been requested to state exactly how many American workers(welders) his company did hire. He refuses to answer that question.
The main emphasis in bringing in foreign workers is showing that you lack an adequate local workforce. I assure after the closing of the Avondale shipyards, there are way more than 195 welders in Louisiana available to work. He just chose to go with CHEAPER Mexican labor.
The main emphasis in bringing in foreign workers is showing that you lack an adequate local workforce. I assure after the closing of the Avondale shipyards, there are way more than 195 welders in Louisiana available to work. He just chose to go with CHEAPER Mexican labor.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:42 am to boudinman
If 195 illegals were hired and a hundred Americans were not, then Landry needs to be impeached. frick that if true.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:44 am to boudinman
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Jeff Landry
I'm so sick of this fricker. When will he finally go away?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:54 am to boudinman
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It's he hired 195, yet 113 American applied and were denied a job
But he didn't, genius. Unless he just hired 195 welders to just sit on a payroll and do nothing, which is astonishingly stupid. But, in order to hire workers, you have to have a job for them. In order to have a job at any petrochemical/LNG plant you must go through both STATE AND FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECKS and acquire state and federal identification issued by STATE AND FEDERAL. In addition to this, any work performed by a welder must be certified. Meaning, that welders background and certifications must be sent to the owners inspector, whether it be in house or 3rd party, to be certified to perform that technical weld. These aren't a shite load of tack welds being performed (you can google tack weld since i know you dont know what you are talking about).
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I assure after the closing of the Avondale shipyards, there are way more than 195 welders in Louisiana available to work.
You are completely wrong. The amount of work going on in Lousisiana is astounding, especially in the plant world. We are already at critical mass. Finding qualified welders is extremely hard to do nowadays. There arent 195 welders available. Companies have to outsource to other states to get welders with the work in the gulf south. Texas is going through a big boom as well. All of south Louisiana is booming right now. Every petrochemical, oil and gas plant in the gulf south is expanding in part due to the economy. Many plants are growing, many plants are being constructed. THe avondale shipyard isn't supplying the welders of the gulf south. You don't know what you are talking about.
Think about it rationally and logically. Again, if i'm wrong i'll come back and eat crow, but i am not wrong. Again not a big Jeff Landry supporter.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 10:56 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:55 am to boudinman
Is "Landry" the most Louisiana non-Cajun name out there?
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:00 am to BugAC
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By a show of hands, how many here have worked in a plant, and for how long?
Worked in several plants off and on for 3 years as a helper then a project controls guy. There were Mexicans and Central Americans everywhere, especially insulators and scaffold builders. MANY were illegal and spoke no English.
They frequently joked about how easy it was to get around all of the regulations. That’s why the whole crew was from “Texas”. They all had the same address in a Houston suburb. When we needed to meet a requirement for hiring local labor, suddenly, they all had a registered address off Banks St in New Orleans. It was all a sham I could do nothing about.
With that said, there is no shortage of tradesmen. There’s a MASSIVE shortage of certified tradesmen who can pass a drug test and will show up to work on time for more than a week.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:10 am to boudinman
quote:what makes you say that? most mexicans i have worked with will do exactly what you tell them. they will cut corners if you are on top of it but that goes for american laborers as well.
195 Mexican Laborers using questionable means.
i do not support the hiring of illegals. but just cans they are mexican doesnt mean they are illegal.
Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:12 am to kingbob
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Worked in several plants off and on for 3 years as a helper then a project controls guy.
How recent was this? Not doubting you, just curious.
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They frequently joked about how easy it was to get around all of the regulations.
You're not getting around welding regulations nowadays...unless you're in a shitty/dangerous plant.
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There were Mexicans and Central Americans everywhere, especially insulators and scaffold builders. MANY were illegal and spoke no English.
I didn't work for a sub, but for an industrial GC that worked at most of these plants. The regulations and restrictions for qualified welders were extremely tight, as was getting in and out of these plants...as a contractor. Now i don't know if maintenance contracts were as strict as what we went through, and not sure if thats where you worked, but new construction in an existing site was tight, and the welding requirements for the projects i was on, were extremely technical and tight.
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With that said, there is no shortage of tradesmen. There’s a MASSIVE shortage of certified tradesmen who can pass a drug test and will show up to work on time for more than a week.
There is a massive shortage of qualified labor out there. Now, and especially in the next 3-10 years, we are going to be hurting.
ETA: I will admit that it may be easier to get into a plant as a pipefitter, with a work visa. But if you are a welder, and you don't have the certifications, which i dont know what percentage of Mexican workers on visas have some or any of these certs, but i'm betting its few, if any, seeing as they are American certifications, unless this is a visa'd worker who works in the country often enough to take the classes for these certs.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 11:19 am
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